UTG Leapers? Give it to me straight.

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    fishinwrench
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    I know they are probably a sponsor here, and it’s rare to see anyone say anything but good stuff on YT reviews.   BUT have you read many of the reviews on Amazon ?

    Seems to be a bunch of broken reticles, AO adjustment rings falling off,  poor tracking, and “not holding zero” going on.  

    I ask because I’m torn between a Leapers 3-9×32 AO and a Bushnell AR/223 3-9x40AO and I don’t know if I should choose via the reviews I see from people that might not know what they are talking about…..or via the reviews from guys that should know what they are talking about, but might have alterior reasons for praising them.   
    Just for the record, you have to look pretty hard to find a bad review on the Bushnell AR line.   But poor reviews on the Leapers are pretty common.   I wanna like them, but now I’m scared.  

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    Maineiac
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    I think the difference is that a lot of those reviews on non-airgun specific sites like Amazon have people using them on powder burners with actual recoil which wears the scopes out faster. For airgun and 22 LR use I’ve had great luck with UTG

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    Brian10956
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    Leapers has OK scopes for the money they are functional but won’t be the sharpest. Warranty and customer service is decent.

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    alex2865
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    there junk.dont buy one.i had 2.junk.get a hawke

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    Scotchmo
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    I use UTG/Leapers scopes on all my airguns. They are not the best design/quality, but are good value considering the cost. They do what I want (usually). They can have issues but they have good customer service.

    I have gotten two or three UTG scopes with issues, but returned them for refund or replacement. I have won lots of FT matches using their scopes, including three National championships, all with different UTG scopes.

    I’m still looking for something better, but have yet to find any that are so much better that it warrants spending the extra money.

    I mostly use their 3-12×44 and 4-16×44 side focus scopes. I have also used their 6-24×50 front focus with good results.

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    fishinwrench
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    Really I’m only concerned with scopes in the -100-140.00 range.    The rifles that I use, and what I use them for do not justify a 200+ dollar scope.   
    Yeah I know, you get what you pay for, blah blah blah, but I’m not slapping a 300.00+ scope on a 200.00 rifle, and I shouldn’t have to.
    In all reality, getting a small tube to stay in place inside a slightly larger tube SHOULDN’T require lying to my wife about how much I spent on it.  
    I don’t require crystal clear lenses and exquisite focus, I just need a scope with turrets that will track…and a scope that will hold frikken zero and not fall apart prematurely.  

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    2D1C
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    I have had two? 3-9 bug buster and my 4-16×44. I have had no issues at all with either. Both would paint a box.  I sold the BB with my Sumatra. The 4X16 I went to school on.
    Its a MOA turret. It paints a box. If your shooting a springer? You need to see Joe Rhea’s vids

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    steppenwulf
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    i have several and as said, decent scopes for the money. had a problem with one, sent it in, and got a new replacement promptly.  for plinking i like them.

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    c_m_shooter
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    The UTG scopes are good for what they are and the warranty is good if you are putting it on a springer.  The tracking is hit or miss depending on individual examples, but anyone clicking for trajectory ought to be using a better scope anyway.  I had a Bushnell AR optics 3-12 side focus for awhile.  It would focus down to 10 yards, but always had parallax inside of 15, so required a very consistant cheek weld. I would get the UTG instead.

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    Hookster
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    They are good for price, I have moved on though from cheap glass. You can get more out of a gun with great glass. Have owned several leapers UTG scopes, just dust collectors now. 

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    spysir
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    I like the UTG for what they are. And agree they are good enough to win an FT championship ( with the right rig & shooter & class).

    I will NEVER buy any Bushnell again, period!

    Purchased the model that replaced the excellent 4200 elite ( cant recall exact model #) and the cross hairs were off to about 12:30 ( as opposed to straight up vertical at 12″00 ). It also would not zero at 25 yards , ran out of clicks on an AA410. Sent it in for repair and was told that ” it meets all our Quality standards”.

     Bushnell was a great company before they sold out a few years back.

    John

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    jakebbb87
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    I have had excellent luck with UTG scopes. They are much clearer than many in the same price range and they are a great bang for the money. My experience is with 2 different scopes with the same spec’s. 3-12 x44 SWAT with IR/AO; one was mini and the other was standard length. Both held zero well and did a great job. The reticle is bit thick but, for hunting you cant beat them for the price. I still have the mini but, comparing to the Aztec Emerald; you start to see the difference in glass clarity pretty fast. If you go to ER’s site, some of his pics of customer guns have UTG scopes. IMO- If you need a decent scope and are on a budget, get one. 

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    jimbo1947
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    I have several utg-Leapers. My best is fixed power 10×50 ao with glass  etched reticle in 30 mm.  It is a good scope for clarity and has held  up for two yrs, about 2000 shots on my rws 48.

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    fishinwrench
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    Thought I’d post an update. 
    I got the Bushnell AR 3-9x40AO and am perfectly happy with it’s tracking, clarity, and ability to hold zero on the Gamo Swarm after a little over 500 shots, BUT the weight of it makes the gun feel top heavy and I just can’t get over it, it drives me crazy.  So I went ahead (against my better judgement) and ordered a UTG 3-9X32AO and I’m gonna give it a chance. 

    See what I’ve done here?   Now I’ve jacked around and spent 270.00 on “cheap” scopes when I probably should have just hauled off and stepped up in the quality range from the get-go.   
    Honestly the only thing that is keeping me from buying a 3-400 scope is because I keep hearing about how it doesn’t matter how good a scope is….it ain’t gonna last long on a break barrel anyway.   

    I hate that because I LOVE break barrel guns.  I have no interest in PCP’s whatsoever, they all look like Star Wars shit to me.

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    Keyman62421
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    Athlon argos!!!!!!!!!

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    fishinwrench
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    “Keyman62421”Athlon argos!!!!!!!!!


    They look sweet.  Think one would last 5 years on a gas piston gun ?

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    Beeman22
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    On the lower end up the spectrum (say, under $120), I’ve had a UTG 4×32, a 3-9×40, and a Hawke 2-7×32.  The Hawke handily beat the other two as far as I was concerned – the glass is clearly (pun intended) superior. All my other scopes are higher-end, so I won’t compare to those, but think the 2-7×32 Hawke is a really great value and jsut wasn’t that impressed with the UTG stuff I’ve had.

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    Scrufhunter
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    I’ve had the bugBuster 3-9×32 for about 4 years. I used a bubble leveling system with the action out of the stock on my springer, held a zero for 4 years, but it fell off the tailgate and landed on the scope, it got bent. I have the 3-12×44 but havnt spent much time with it. the 44 is a side wheel/turret AO   its pretty stiff, i am going to add the upgrade side wheel to it maybe be easier. The 32mm BugBuster is a front twist AO and i can adjust it with my thumb while holding on target. I also have a Hammers 3-9x32mm front AO that is supposed to be used for magnum springers on a NP1, seems to hold zero i havnt had to adjust it, but the mildot is only 3 dots as apposed to the 9 of the UTG’s. In all I like my UTG’s and I think are better than Center Point if that means anything.

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    fishinwrench
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    Well I enjoyed it for almost a week, but it didn’t last long (about 250 shots).  Today the reticles spun 1/4 turn.  I’m going to send it back to Pyramyd Air and give it one more chance.    If the replacement doesn’t last at least a year then I am done with UTG LEAPERS for good.     Fingers crossed.   

    I notice that some of their scopes (including the one I got) have a “TS” designation.    What is that supposed to mean ?

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    kayaker
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    means” True strength” platform how its built

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