Underpowered gem Diana 34

Hello there my wonderful springer compatriots! I’ve run into an intriguing yet bizarre issue…not many would call it an issue. Basically my Diana 34 is very underpowered (chronograph 680 FPS-10.9 ft/lbs), but that’s what makes it special. I recently acquired this rifle as my project and installed an OEM spring because the original was shattered from 2 places (should be around 13-14 F.P.E.). Also, I ended up buying a vortek piston seal that I meticulously “lightened” by removing some inner bits. I like to go a little heavy with the grease and I’m thinking that might be the issue…regardless a very ODD event occurred at the range yesterday.

Before that though, I must say that my first shot was very powerful. I tested it on a block of wood and it was nearly twice the penetration of my 12.5 ft/lb Air Arms TX200. Fast forward to the range (target at 35 yards)…I’ve taken 50 other shots and I noticed that the stock screws were coming loose…of course I already knew this because both screws were stripped and so I ordered new ones coming tomorrow.

NOW on to the very strange incident. I was at 35 yards as I said in the aforementioned paragraph (36 to be exact), on a somewhat windy day. My first 50 shots were terrible..shootin like a shotgun. I managed to get 3 shots to group but they weren’t anything magnificent so I got tired…blaming it on the loose screws and maybe the pellet I put the rifle away…ON TO THE TX200 and obviously that’s shooting well because…you know…v-mach tune. Fast forward again I decide to take the Diana 34 out again to try these really old batch of Barracuda 10.65 grains that I forgot I had…and BAM!!! 4 shots in the same hole (I mean the same hole!) and then once again the groups became terrible with the occasional pellet next to pellet. I sat for a second and I didn’t know what to think. Good pellets? Good tune?

The gun still kicks like a mule even though it’s at 10.9 ft/lbs (but damn is it smooth to cock…as smooth as my v-Mach TX200 and my HW95 oddly enough)…which tells me that something is off with the piston seal…maybe I shouldn’t have lightened anything…but then no 4 shots in same hole would’ve ever happened. Or maybe overgreased? Maybe this is what Bob Ross meant when he said “we don’t make mistakes, only happy little accidents.” Well anyways that being said, I’d appreciate anyone’s two cents. Thanks. 


HEY WHATEVER HAPPENED TO ODOYLE AND YO?!?
 
Could be a couple things, first would be you messed up the seal by altering it. Second might be it is or was dieseling from excess lube or wrong type of lube. Next could be the factory spring.....they are prone to breaking, few last beyond a thousand rounds. The 34 is a great rifle but usually performs better with a good spring kit and seal from aftermarket mfgr. The fact that it kicks hard is a sign that it is not firing properly. 
 
If it still kicks like hell, and has low velocity, the seal is probably not sealing and its very slammy. Or you might have made extra headspace in front of the seal, and killed the efficiency. But we really don't have enough info to go on to say. 

Odoyle wouldn't have anything to add but regurgitated nonsense that he read somewhere else. He left until a group of new members comes in that are oblivious to his shady actions. Rest assured he will be back, soon as the heat is off him. 


 
Or you might have made extra headspace in front of the seal, and killed the efficiency. 


What do you mean by this?

Widening the groove between the lip and mounting ring of the piston seal, or shortening it back. This would lower the static compression ratio of the powerplant and kill the efficiency. Can also cause the gun to be slammy and violent, as well as rob a lot of power since the peak pressure in the cylinder never gets up to where it should. 

The efficiency of the Mod 34 is always going to be pretty terrible due to the long angled transfer port. That long port has a lot of dead air volume. If you add even just a little more, it makes it noticeably worse. 

The Weihrauchs and other brands are more efficient because the transfer port is straight and shorter, less volume. They can then use a smaller and lighter piston, 26mm in most, to give a calmer shot cycle. 

I don't know what you did to "lighten" the piston seal. But by what you are describing with harsh shooting, low power and huge power swings and accuracy issues, it sounds like you made the seal smaller and it's not sealing efficiently. I'd start with a new seal and size it correctly if you tear back into it. Keep it on the snug side, and it will turn out a lot better. 

I don't know exactly what you did, so I'm just tossing out ideas here. I hope you get it straightened out. 
 
Or you might have made extra headspace in front of the seal, and killed the efficiency. 


What do you mean by this?

I don't know exactly what you did, so I'm just tossing out ideas here. I hope you get it straightened out.

In your experience, has heavy grease ever decreased power?

Yes. every time.