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Umarex Gauntlet video review by AEAC
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yea wow it sounds just as bad as my qb78, wierd sproing (hammer bounce?) shot cycle. Just reinforces that whole thing about "you get what you pay for" solid video once again tho.
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Good review, best I've seen with the addition of the still pictures but what were you doing for so long on the trigger? Odd that your is so hard to cock, and has so much lube ( yours ?) . My .177 is smooth , neighbors .22 feels about the same cocking but the .22 lead seems slightly rough maybe.
& you do get what you pay for. 10 years ago this rifle would have been over $1,000 but you couldn't get all these features.
The "sprong" is indeed striker bounce, it is very over sprung and easily fixed. I have no issues with a single stage trigger so am under 1lb and in .177.
As an entry level FT rifle nothing else on the market can touch it even at a full double the price. For target shooters & plinkers ( but not those who will complain about weight or "need" an airgun that fit's in there pocket ) THE rifle. Open the TP, adjust reg ( safely and in violation of warranty ) and you'll have all the power you could need in .22 - there .25 claims seem just a bit high to me but IF the tube will take the psi, yes the .25 will shine- in under 1 hour.
A quick release "pole-cat" bi-pod works well and allows the sling to still be used.
You know we will be needing the .25 reviewed also.
John
& you do get what you pay for. 10 years ago this rifle would have been over $1,000 but you couldn't get all these features.
The "sprong" is indeed striker bounce, it is very over sprung and easily fixed. I have no issues with a single stage trigger so am under 1lb and in .177.
As an entry level FT rifle nothing else on the market can touch it even at a full double the price. For target shooters & plinkers ( but not those who will complain about weight or "need" an airgun that fit's in there pocket ) THE rifle. Open the TP, adjust reg ( safely and in violation of warranty ) and you'll have all the power you could need in .22 - there .25 claims seem just a bit high to me but IF the tube will take the psi, yes the .25 will shine- in under 1 hour.
A quick release "pole-cat" bi-pod works well and allows the sling to still be used.
You know we will be needing the .25 reviewed also.
John
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You do get what you pay for....to a point....then you pay for a name.
I love the QB trigger setup, so easy to make however you want it to be, and so easy to clean up...Not sure I agree with a pain in the hiney, and you said it takes about a minute....I think you are fishing.....and yes you are going to clean here and polish there.....at $300 I expect that, at $1300 I expect it to be perfect and run perfect for a long while....something I am finding out you don't get.
It really has me rethinking a great many things in the airgun world.
I am also interested in why this gun got 10 shots for the review and all your others it seems to be the norm for you to do 5....I found this interesting.
So just looking at your review once, I came away reading into it you are looking for the bad, perhaps because Umerex is not bank rolling your channel....who knows.
I am listening to the review while working.....and picked up on another thing.
somewhat adjustable trigger.....what trigger function can't you adjust....dude come on
I love the QB trigger setup, so easy to make however you want it to be, and so easy to clean up...Not sure I agree with a pain in the hiney, and you said it takes about a minute....I think you are fishing.....and yes you are going to clean here and polish there.....at $300 I expect that, at $1300 I expect it to be perfect and run perfect for a long while....something I am finding out you don't get.
It really has me rethinking a great many things in the airgun world.
I am also interested in why this gun got 10 shots for the review and all your others it seems to be the norm for you to do 5....I found this interesting.
So just looking at your review once, I came away reading into it you are looking for the bad, perhaps because Umerex is not bank rolling your channel....who knows.
I am listening to the review while working.....and picked up on another thing.
somewhat adjustable trigger.....what trigger function can't you adjust....dude come on
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At the price point it's a decent gun but it didn't work out for me ...first gun I was sent didn't have any power and the second one wouldnt hold air longer than 3 hrs. For me I think I'm done trying this gun but maybe I just had bad luck.
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Great review. Your can the vibration in the barrel in your video. That might have something to do with the longer range accuracy.
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I have had mine for about a month now. I took the trigger completely apart and polished all surfaces that touch or rub. It was easy to do if you have any mechanical whatsoever. I am way under a pound with a creep free pull. I lubed it with Maccari's special goo from Air Gun Headquarters and can easily get the same results as shown on the video at 50 yards. Now here is the only caveat and yes, I am writing it in caps.
ONCE YOU GET IT ON TARGET, DO NOT TOUCH OR BUMPTHE BARREL. If you do, you will be readjusting the scope once again. That barrel is a thin tube with a big shroud tube attached to it and it doesn't often go back to the same position if lifted or bumped. I am not too sure that even just shooting the gun doesn't shift the barrel ever so slightly.
Other than that, the gun is pretty darn good for $300. I am working on a point of aim fix but not making too much progress as of yet.
ONCE YOU GET IT ON TARGET, DO NOT TOUCH OR BUMPTHE BARREL. If you do, you will be readjusting the scope once again. That barrel is a thin tube with a big shroud tube attached to it and it doesn't often go back to the same position if lifted or bumped. I am not too sure that even just shooting the gun doesn't shift the barrel ever so slightly.
Other than that, the gun is pretty darn good for $300. I am working on a point of aim fix but not making too much progress as of yet.
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Maybe the extra hammer spring tension makes the .22 a stiffer ride back. Not sure why the trigger was so tough for me... I know how to tune a trigger and that one gave me fits.
Steve
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I called it like I saw it... from the perspective of a guy who was able to review five sub $500 guns this year within the context of also being able to review a dozen $1,000-$2,000 guns within the same time frame. I respect your feelings & position on the Gauntlet... I do, but "fishing" and "Umarex not bank rolling my channel?" Really, lol.
This review was a simple relaying of information based upon an experience framed up within the year's discoveries. Period, end of story.
... already on to the next one.
Best,
Steve
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One other note about this gun is the length that I really feel it's way to long ....my limit is roughly 42 inches & that is pushing it .
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I can see where you are coming from, but the simple fact you ran a full mag in this however the vast majority of your other reviews has fewer shots. And 4hrs to do a QB78 trigger....I would love to know just how you managed to drag it out that long....there is nothing to them, 6 screws and half of those are to take the cover off....If you can't get that trigger setup the way you want....well I have nothing, it is a very adjustable trigger out of the box, and very easy to adjust....and can be a fantastic trigger....You also missed this on the Chief you reviewed some time ago. If you say you are going to test them as they are out of the box...fine, but to say it is a pain to adjust and takes an entire minute to do....you are fishing dude.
The other thing I find odd is the change in clothing during the review....at the start it has to be cold, heavy jacket, cap....then other times T-shirt, and you can tell you are breaking a sweat.
I really enjoy your reviews and we all have our bias....we are human after all.....but I do think something sounds fishy.
Is this gun all that and a box of rocks....no, does the gun punch above its weight class, yes. Do you get what you pay for....yes, you get more then what you pay for......are guns that cost over $1000 giving you 2X+ the value.....well you be the judge of that, I will tell you one thing however after someone shells out $1000+ on an air rifle they are going to tell you it is that much better.....but in my experience.....you don't see that actual value....as in that Daystate/FX/take your pick is not $900 more gun then this one....it is not $500 more gun....unless you really like pretty wood....but does the material the stock is made of really help put holes where you want them....nope.
I know I am going to ruffle feathers on this, as people need to justify them owning high priced air rifles....but in terms of doing the job that a gun is to do, sorry guys....I am calling it as I see it.
The other thing I find odd is the change in clothing during the review....at the start it has to be cold, heavy jacket, cap....then other times T-shirt, and you can tell you are breaking a sweat.
I really enjoy your reviews and we all have our bias....we are human after all.....but I do think something sounds fishy.
Is this gun all that and a box of rocks....no, does the gun punch above its weight class, yes. Do you get what you pay for....yes, you get more then what you pay for......are guns that cost over $1000 giving you 2X+ the value.....well you be the judge of that, I will tell you one thing however after someone shells out $1000+ on an air rifle they are going to tell you it is that much better.....but in my experience.....you don't see that actual value....as in that Daystate/FX/take your pick is not $900 more gun then this one....it is not $500 more gun....unless you really like pretty wood....but does the material the stock is made of really help put holes where you want them....nope.
I know I am going to ruffle feathers on this, as people need to justify them owning high priced air rifles....but in terms of doing the job that a gun is to do, sorry guys....I am calling it as I see it.
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I an one of the few that like a single stage trigger .. Also I set my qb trigger for a light with MINUMUM TRAVEL .. Minimum trigger movement to trip the sear needed to fire it , but I shoot off a bench...
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After polishing all the internals in my trigger, I was able to easily set it so that simply applying pressure to where the trigger sits after cocking, gets it to break at less than one pound with no perceivable creep or drag. It has to be worked to get it like that, I tried before the polish to no avail, but once polished, it is a fine single stage trigger that rivals those on my spring guns.
There is a trigger stop that can be adjusted for overtravel, a pull weight screw and an adjustment to set the sear position on the trigger. If done nicely in combination with each other, you got yourself a very good trigger on the cheap.
Now I ask, has anyone seen the condition I described in my former post? A little bump on the barrel will shift the point of aim off the one that was previously set. I have made sure that the three screws associated with the barrel were tight and in the proper position and the shroud was on tight. Still, when my pump tipped over and slightly bumped the barrel on the way, my POI was off almost 2 inches at 40 yards. Trigonometry reminds us that a very small change in angle at the source, amplifies quickly at the end the further out you go. I also know that there are other guns out there that suffer the same fate.
There is a trigger stop that can be adjusted for overtravel, a pull weight screw and an adjustment to set the sear position on the trigger. If done nicely in combination with each other, you got yourself a very good trigger on the cheap.
Now I ask, has anyone seen the condition I described in my former post? A little bump on the barrel will shift the point of aim off the one that was previously set. I have made sure that the three screws associated with the barrel were tight and in the proper position and the shroud was on tight. Still, when my pump tipped over and slightly bumped the barrel on the way, my POI was off almost 2 inches at 40 yards. Trigonometry reminds us that a very small change in angle at the source, amplifies quickly at the end the further out you go. I also know that there are other guns out there that suffer the same fate.
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I have not noticed it, but I have not had mine that long....I will do some fiddling with mine.
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Hey Steve, good honest review. Don’t know that I’d ever buy one but it would be a good project gun to polish on and tweak. I bet the bolt, hammer and hammer bore could be polished and really smooth up that part some. The shot sounds reminds me of the Marauders I used to shoot unregulated. Sounds like it has a little hammer bounce if I'm hearing correctly. Mine went away on my 22 Marauder after I regulated it and went with a lighter hammer.
Wasn’t that long ago you had sweat running down your crack and now wearing a jacket and toboggan. Same here in NM though. I was in Houston week before last and it got cold, left on a Thursday and they got snow Friday or Saturday. Who’d thought that?
Have a great weekend Steve and keep up the great ”work”, I use that term loosely though. lol
Jimmy
Wasn’t that long ago you had sweat running down your crack and now wearing a jacket and toboggan. Same here in NM though. I was in Houston week before last and it got cold, left on a Thursday and they got snow Friday or Saturday. Who’d thought that?
Have a great weekend Steve and keep up the great ”work”, I use that term loosely though. lol
Jimmy
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All the reviews so far really indicate that's it's well worth the money.
242$ to 299$ for a regulated PCP rifle is astounding for anyone looking to get into a PCP airgun.I enjoyed the review and appreciate all of AEAC's work to bring us these review's.
I know of no other PCP that even comes close to the features of the gauntlet for the money.
242$ to 299$ for a regulated PCP rifle is astounding for anyone looking to get into a PCP airgun.I enjoyed the review and appreciate all of AEAC's work to bring us these review's.
I know of no other PCP that even comes close to the features of the gauntlet for the money.
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Springggger,
One of the things that amazes me is LACK of shift on my .177. Even after a total tear down I haven't been more than 16 clicks off. Day to day shift, zero. I can shoot off a bench then set the rifles barrel on the front bag , upright, side ways , slap it lightly with my palm, NO shift.
From the factory I did have a loose forward barrel mou nt screw. The forward breech hold down screw was loose - likely due to crush/lack of crush/poor alignment of the transfer port tube.
And I wouldn't know how to do the Math on a change of direction/force the shroud on mine does need about 15lb torque to screw it on due to the heavy spring inside. There is a LOT of tension ( 15lb may be rather low) on my shroud, so much it seems like a thread would strip or such but works well.
The 11mm barrel isnt an issue. The LR90 & Mako used one ( I believe), all the old Titan/Beeman/Falcon rifles & pistols used 11mm barrels and shot well enough to be topm competitors in shooting sports & hunting. Check those screws and how much tension does your shroud have?
Note I also have no shift w/out shroud. If I push barrel to the side it comes right back to zero. Must be something to figure out on yours.
John
One of the things that amazes me is LACK of shift on my .177. Even after a total tear down I haven't been more than 16 clicks off. Day to day shift, zero. I can shoot off a bench then set the rifles barrel on the front bag , upright, side ways , slap it lightly with my palm, NO shift.
From the factory I did have a loose forward barrel mou nt screw. The forward breech hold down screw was loose - likely due to crush/lack of crush/poor alignment of the transfer port tube.
And I wouldn't know how to do the Math on a change of direction/force the shroud on mine does need about 15lb torque to screw it on due to the heavy spring inside. There is a LOT of tension ( 15lb may be rather low) on my shroud, so much it seems like a thread would strip or such but works well.
The 11mm barrel isnt an issue. The LR90 & Mako used one ( I believe), all the old Titan/Beeman/Falcon rifles & pistols used 11mm barrels and shot well enough to be topm competitors in shooting sports & hunting. Check those screws and how much tension does your shroud have?
Note I also have no shift w/out shroud. If I push barrel to the side it comes right back to zero. Must be something to figure out on yours.
John
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