TX200HC or HW97K and why?

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My apologies for lack of clarity. I wrote all over the place & didn’t really convey what I was trying to say. I fixed it, should read a bit better now. 



Either that or I read it wrong! Which is entirely possible!

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Nope! When I’m wrong I’m wrong. Was at work and typed my brain out. Not a good thing if you knew how my brain works. 
 
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I always read where the HW77 was the air rifle that was the one to beat in FT back in the day. And that Air Arms built the TX200 Mk1 to compete with the HW77. And after the TX200 Mk1 came out that the HW97 came in to being to out do the TX200. Or so I think that's what I understand. And from what all I've read they all are great air rifles. So without getting first hand knowledge from real owners and shooters, whose to know?

Thanks
Ray
 
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@yarddog

My apologies for lack of clarity. I wrote all over the place & didn’t really convey what I was trying to say. I fixed it, should read a bit better now. 



Either that or I read it wrong! Which is entirely possible!

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Nope! When I’m wrong I’m wrong. Was at work and typed my brain out. Not a good thing if you knew how my brain works.
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Don't feel bad about that. At work, I receive and send at least 200 emails a day, and trust me when I tell you that I don't all of them all that well...
 
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I have owned both in factory issue , and tuned to 12 ftlb . The 97 always got shot more often . there is something about the shot cycle of a TX200 that I don't like. I know that's not the best way to articulate it but it's just the way it feels to me. The 97 is a good solid thunk and you look up and there's a hole in the target
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This. I enjoy the 97 so much, and shoot it "out of the box"
 
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I own a 97. Like most it twanged in the beginning. I liked it then but loved it after I put a 12 fpe kit in it (it shoots at 11.5 fpe). It is wonderfully accurate with 10.34 AA Field Heavies and what I shoot FT with when I shoot a spring gun.

You can buy a full power 97 and an aftermarket 12 fpe kit for way less than you'll spend on just a TX and, if you don't mind the disassembly/assembly, enjoy both power worlds.

Now, I think everyone should own at least one under lever, but you seem concerned about one slamming shut and taking your thumb off (me too). And if you ask anyone who owns one they'll tell you they are heavy. Tonight I was reading responses on another forum from shooters who are loving their much lighter weight HW95's/R9's at the 12 fpe. level (I don't know if they bought kits or cut their springs) and you don't have to worry about loosing your thumb in an accident.

Again, I think everyone should own an under lever, but a 12 fpe HW95/R9 might be an alternative to consider.

Here is a typical 23 yd. group from my 97.

ChrisK

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I always read where the HW77 was the air rifle that was the one to beat in FT back in the day. And that Air Arms built the TX200 Mk1 to compete with the HW77. And after the TX200 Mk1 came out that the HW97 came in to being to out do the TX200. Or so I think that's what I understand. And from what all I've read they all are great air rifles. So without getting first hand knowledge from real owners and shooters, whose to know?

Thanks
Ray
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The 2019 world field target piston class champion used a custom stock TX200HC to win it. He scored 135 out 150 for 3 day event. Third place piston shooter used a TX200 with custom stock. Second place used an LGV.
 
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I own a 97. Like most it twanged in the beginning. I liked it then but loved it after I put a 12 fpe kit in it (it shoots at 11.5 fpe). It is wonderfully accurate with 10.34 AA Field Heavies and what I shoot FT with when I shoot a spring gun.

You can buy a full power 97 and an aftermarket 12 fpe kit for way less than you'll spend on just a TX and, if you don't mind the disassembly/assembly, enjoy both power worlds.

Now, I think everyone should own at least one under lever, but you seem concerned about one slamming shut and taking your thumb off (me too). And if you ask anyone who owns one they'll tell you they are heavy. Tonight I was reading responses on another forum from shooters who are loving their much lighter weight HW95's/R9's at the 12 fpe. level (I don't know if they bought kits or cut their springs) and you don't have to worry about loosing your thumb in an accident.

Again, I think everyone should own an under lever, but a 12 fpe HW95/R9 might be an alternative to consider.

Here is a typical 23 yd. group from my 97.

ChrisK

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Man that is a excellent group you have there. And funny thing about the thumb chopping off thing. I keep hearing folks talking about it happening but can't recall anybody ever saying it actually happened. Go figure. I already have two break barrel springers and that's why I'm leaning toward an underlever :)

Thanks Ray
 
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I saw a picture once of a thumb that supposedly got smashed in an under lever air rifle. It was as bad as you can imagine.
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I have no idea about the HW97 but have heard that the "cocking shoe" on the TX200 has a tendency to wear out prematurely. I sure would hate to have my thumb in front of that sliding breech section if that shoe ever decided to break !!!! 👍😲

Ray
 
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I don't have an HW97K, but have owned a TX200HC for quite a while. Two things I noticed right away, the stock was configured very differently from my other springers, and I found it very accurate shooting offhand and sitting. I think the stock design is someone's idea of the ideal configuration for field target. The comb is high, the heel is low, and it is a true right handed stock, with a deep thumb recess and deep pistol grip. The wrist is fairly narrow and the trigger reach very short. All this encourages a head up position and a low wrist and elbow. From the pictures, the 97K looks to have a more sporter oriented stock. All a matter of preference of course.

The TX firing cycle as shipped was perhaps a little harsh, but no twang, just a thud at the end of stroke. I did install a Vortek kit, and that made the firing cycle a bit smoother. I appreciate the shorter length of the HC version, and also feel the short 9" barrel helps accuracy. The full length shroud provides some sound supression, and looks good as well. After some fiddling, the trigger pull measures a very consistent 12 ounces.

I'm sure you will be happy whichever one you get.
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Glad you noticed the stock. Now imagine being right handed and left eye dominant but loving your TX200’s. 
Ideally I need a lefty stock or cut comb out and install adjustable riser. Need righty loading port. Especially for small .177 in cold. 
 
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JamesD, dumb question probably, but why is using your non-dominant eye with a scope a problem? Is it because you can't concentrate on the scope image properly? Have you tried blocking your left eye vision? There are two types of blinders used by target shooters, the type that clips on your glasses, and the type that attaches to the rear sight. You might give one of the blinders a try if you haven't already.
 
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