How do you get to the turtles u shoot ,,what do you do when you just wound it ,and it goes under to suffer ,,sorry not trying given you a hard time IMHO is that if you cant reach something your shooting at.. why shoot it .YOU SHOW NO turtle pictures but show a picture of you shooting ,,i would summize if you recovered any turtles you would have posted the pictures... its only my opinion from past experience that haunts me from a long long time ago ,maybe posting this im trying to feel better,,ps i dont HYNZIE