Tuning a TAIPAN Veteran for JSB's

ATTN: Taipan Veteran owners...or .25 cal JBS shooters. 

I just did a review video on the Taipan Veteran Long .25 cal. The gun was awesome but the accuracy was good...not great, like I have heard these guns are. Apparently, all you do is loosen a screw on the left side of the gun and then you can freely turn the hammer spring adjuster knob located on the back of the rifle. 

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Tony at Talon Tunes said I could hang onto the rifle for a couple more weeks and tune that dial a bit so we can see what that gun is really capable of. 



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I will be using JSB .25.39gr and 33.95gr MKII's and 33.95gr originals. 

What is a good pellet speed for the 25gr and 33gr JSB's

What speed have you had the best accuracy at in YOUR air rifle.

What speed do you TAIPAN Veteran owners find is accurate with those 2 pellets? 

Your input will help save me some time. Thanks! -Nate

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Veteran Long Review video AGN thread: https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/taipan-veteran-long-full-review-from-talon-tunes-happy-thanksgiving/
 
I really hate to be the lone dissenter here, Nate. But when before reviewing a product, any product, shouldn't the reviewer take adequate time to learn the product? 

Shouldn't the reviewer know the very basics of the product, e.g. the hammer spring adjuster and "that button right there" on the side -----> the "magazine catch"? 

I find it hard to take a review serious when the reviewer appears to be simply introducing himself to the product for the first time.
 
Shouldn't the reviewer know the very basics of the product, e.g. the hammer spring adjuster and "that button right there" on the side —–> the "magazine catch"? 

I find it hard to take a review serious when the reviewer appears to be simply introducing himself to the product for the first time.

Hi, I appreciate the constructive criticism. You are right about that. However, unboxing an unfamiliar gun and shooting it on camera for the first time is kind of my "thing" or maybe my "style" of reviewing a gun. If I had time to research more or shoot the guns more I would love to...but cranking out one gun video per week leaves no time for fun. I will do more homework on the next one. I need to be reminded to slow down once in a while. Thank you! 

I did learn alot already about adjusting velocity. I won't be afraid to find and turn the HTS screws on airguns anymore! That is something I never would have attempted before. Now I will probably try it on every gun. 



THANKS FOR THE INFO ON PELLET SPEEDS!!!!

Also, thanks for telling me to not have the rifle cocked when adjusting it. Good tip!

I got it. I'll be dialing into those speeds post haste and I can't wait! Thanks! -Nate 
 
Ask Tony or DonnyFL to send you the speed dialer for the hammer spring adjustment on the Veteran. I think you will like it.

You do offer a unique style of "reviews" with a smidgen of humor added. I mostly find your videos to be entertaining, if not necessarily informative, which is just fine if one knows in advance what to expect.

I also appreciate the fact that you never seem to take offense to the criticism. 

I wonder if we could find a way to (re)categorize your videos, other than "reviews". Just a thought. 

Your enthusiasm for airgunning does shine through.👍
 
Like 2manyAirGunz mentioned - definitely get the DonnyFL speed dialer. On the fly hammer spring adjustments bring this gun to a whole new level. You can tune it for heavy pellets and then a minute later dial it right back down for light or medium pellets. I don't think it's even fair to review the Veteran without this one modification part. 
 
When I do an accuracy test on a PCP I do the following. After I do my tuning and accurizing work I get out the following pellets for testing. As for the .25 I test with JSB, FX, Air Arms Diabolo field and the Edgun, that is for the 25.4 grain. As for the 34 grain I test with JSB original and MKII, the FX and Edgun. All the pellets I test with are made by JSB and have their own performance characteristics. 

Their is a belief out there that you can choose a pellet and make that gun like that pellet, after testing hundreds of new and used guns I have never been able to choose the pellet for the gun. I have found testing with the JSB made variants will always yield a pellet the gun will shoot very well. I also have found there is no consistency found between guns tested and which pellet they like.

I tend to start at or near max velocity and work my way back from there to find the sweet spot for accuracy and velocity. For example, the .25 Cricket bullpup after a powertune tends to like the 34 grain variants between 910 to 940 FPS, for the 25 grain I have found best accuracy between 990 and 1030 FPS.

I have found that each barrel is an individual creation. Proper testing with multiple pellets within an accepted velocity range, will find your best accuracy and properly represent the capabilities of a gun.

Thanks

Charlie Frear, Georgia Airguns 
 
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Charlie,

After reading your post, I’m thinking to start out at close to max velocity and test the accuracy of the various pellets with the same weight with no adjustments to the gun during the first tests. Then after finding the pellet that has the most consistent POI groups, using that pellet to fine tune the speed to get the most consistent POI with that pellet? Is this correct?

Beach-gunner

Dennis
 
Dennis, I think you are right on. I usually start to see good groups at about ten to fifteen FPS below max and work lower in FPS from there. You will probably see one or two pellet choices perform poorly right away, then you can test further with the pellet choices that remain.

Good luck and I look forward to reading your results.

Thanks

Charlie Frear, Georgia Airguns
 
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Nate's reviews are entertaining and informative....... remove gun from box and shoot it.

How does it shoot out of the box?

I was wanting the Taipan Vet .25 and Nate's review of it pushed me over the edge to click the BUY button. I received my Taipan Veteran Long .25, very nicely prepped by Tony at Talon Tunes, on Friday and WOW what a great decision to get that. I've only put a 100 pellets through it but very impressed thus far.