Tune in a tube?
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I have used it on multiple top-end springers with twang. It gave me very good results. I highly recommend it.
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Nice. I was skeptical as most fix it type products are garbage but I can understand why something like this would work to dampen spring resonance which would reduce twang. My friend and I are both buying springers so I'll get a tube and do both guns and see what difference it makes
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It should do something. For many years folks would do "slot tunes" just slathering a bit of Molly of such on the main spring & letting it work in.
A tear down cleaning and lube with maybe for JM products WILL make a difference .
John
A tear down cleaning and lube with maybe for JM products WILL make a difference .
John
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I use the "Tune in a Tube" on all my springers. It is similar to the heavy moly-paste that is available.
It is a high-tack grease that dampens vibration - you only need a small amount to do the job as too much will cost you FPS so don't slather it on.
You can get the stuff at in the automotive section at the local hardware store - this is the product that I use:
https://lucasoil.com/products/grease/red-n-tacky-grease
Hank
It is a high-tack grease that dampens vibration - you only need a small amount to do the job as too much will cost you FPS so don't slather it on.
You can get the stuff at in the automotive section at the local hardware store - this is the product that I use:
https://lucasoil.com/products/grease/red-n-tacky-grease
Hank
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I personally wouldn't use it. It's nothing more, as far as I can tell, than packing your main spring full of grease. That surely will do three things. Quieten any "twang", reduce your velocity and make for more mess if/when you ever take it down and perform a proper clean and lube.
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Everyone I've seen who uses it hasn't lost much fps. Reduces twang and vibration and aids accuracy. Cant see it being a big problem unless you overdo it.
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You are definitely NOT packing your main spring full of grease. Follow directions, it comes out in a very thin line, and you need very little.
A little goes a long way.
I have used this product on a Winchester 1100s (.177) that would honk when you cocked it and twang when you pulled the trigger.
No more honk, and it goes off with a thud. Very pleased,
It tamed the beast.
Also used it on my Chinese B3-2, in .22 caliber. Very Happy with results.
A little goes a long way.
I have used this product on a Winchester 1100s (.177) that would honk when you cocked it and twang when you pulled the trigger.
No more honk, and it goes off with a thud. Very pleased,
It tamed the beast.
Also used it on my Chinese B3-2, in .22 caliber. Very Happy with results.
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No....I'm not saying that it will hurt anything. It may produce some of the desired effects as already mentioned. I just look at it as putting a bandaid on rather than performing certain tasks to your springer that will absolutely improve it's performance from top to bottom. Which in turn will make it more enjoyable to shoot on a regular basis. You may not want to go that far.....then "Tune in a tube" may do for you. Try it and see..........
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I go along with what you're saying,in my case I may have to do a tear down at some point.
Then, it would get the lube,tune and deburr.
A tear down can be very educational as well.
Until something goes wrong, if I start losing power,or if it starts making awful noises, I'll use this.
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If you hunt with your piece, will your POI be the same at 10F degrees and 90F degrees outside temp? I hunt with my rifles. Don't take my word for it, check it out yourself. I agree with Tired Rooster, it's a bandaid.
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Tune in a Tube can really help reduce the twang and vibration in springers.
Top quality springers are usually pretty good right out of the box but even they benefit from an application of the red high-tack grease.
The cheap springers that I have worked on can really be improved with a bit of TLC and using Tune in a Tube grease usually makes a big difference.
I clean out all the factory grease and lubricate the rifle with some good stuff then break it in with a tin or two of pellets before disassembling to check the insides. After a through cleaning I remove burrs, do some polishing, change cheap hardware for quality stuff, check moving parts (add shims where needed, change roll-pin pivot points to solid pins) to make sure nothing is binding or too loose and check pistons and seals for damage. I use light machine oil, Lubriplate, Molybdenum (sparingly) on moving parts as required, a light coating of Lucas red-n-tacky ( https://lucasoil.com/products/grease/red-n-tacky-grease ) on the spring and spring guide and silicone oil in the compression chamber. The barrel gets a good cleaning and polishing with JB paste. I make sure all hardware is properly tightened and use (blue) Loctite where necessary.
A hour or two of effort and a couple of bucks invested is not going to turn a box-store magnum into a TX200 but it will go a long way to making it smother, calmer and more pleasant to shoot.
A word of caution, do some research before opening a springer, most require a spring compressor for safe disassembly. as the main springs are under a high pre-load.
Hope this is of interest.
Hank
Top quality springers are usually pretty good right out of the box but even they benefit from an application of the red high-tack grease.
The cheap springers that I have worked on can really be improved with a bit of TLC and using Tune in a Tube grease usually makes a big difference.
I clean out all the factory grease and lubricate the rifle with some good stuff then break it in with a tin or two of pellets before disassembling to check the insides. After a through cleaning I remove burrs, do some polishing, change cheap hardware for quality stuff, check moving parts (add shims where needed, change roll-pin pivot points to solid pins) to make sure nothing is binding or too loose and check pistons and seals for damage. I use light machine oil, Lubriplate, Molybdenum (sparingly) on moving parts as required, a light coating of Lucas red-n-tacky ( https://lucasoil.com/products/grease/red-n-tacky-grease ) on the spring and spring guide and silicone oil in the compression chamber. The barrel gets a good cleaning and polishing with JB paste. I make sure all hardware is properly tightened and use (blue) Loctite where necessary.
A hour or two of effort and a couple of bucks invested is not going to turn a box-store magnum into a TX200 but it will go a long way to making it smother, calmer and more pleasant to shoot.
A word of caution, do some research before opening a springer, most require a spring compressor for safe disassembly. as the main springs are under a high pre-load.
Hope this is of interest.
Hank
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I bought a tube of this. It didn’t come with directions. I’ve watched one YouTube on how to put it on but it wasn’t very descriptive. I understand you don’t need much but where on the spring do you place it. I assume on the top of the exposed spring? But, when you insert the tube down into the spring do you place on top of the spring or on the side of the spring or on the tube containing the spring? Thanks.
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I had a pretty twangy R9 that I applied it to. I only removed the rifle from the stock, so I was only able to reach one side of the spring, but it still helped smooth it out a little. It still twangs, but not as much as it used to. I still get the same groups with its favorite pellets, RWS Rifle Meisterglns and JSB 8.44 exacts. Its worth trying, you will not hurt anything.
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Gaylord also filled a brand new $800 Feinwerkbau Sport full of gear oil to the point of it running out the action. Just saying....
He may have gave himself a catchy name, but it doesn't make him any smarter lol
Plus he's on the payroll, of course he would speak highly of it.
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Why not just get a good Tune kit from JM or some other provider. It will not only reduce the twang but make a MUCH smoother cycle with only a very slight increase in effort on your part.
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Thanks. How hard is it to break down a break barrel rifle? Are there any good videos out there?
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I did some quick checking. Looks like the Vortex tune kit gets good reviews. I have a Diana 34 in 22 caliber. They have two options one is high output 730 FPS and the other at 625 FPS. I’m assuming the high output would match what I have now and the other would just be an easier fun gun to shoot. I will use for target shooting and occasional pest control at short range at my cabin. Thoughts?
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