Tominco's FX Crown (pic heavy!)

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    Tominco
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    Edit: added this video…

    I’ve been looking forward to this rifle!
    Day 1 – UPS arrives, knowing I’m waiting on a package. He tells me, “All I have is an envelope for you.” Then the kidder pulls out a long brown box. Just to watch the smile re-appear on my face. Give that man a snickers! 
    Now, I could tell you a long story about how I opened the box, and what’s inside, and things I noticed. Na. Skip it. I will say this though, I was so tired from work that I just let it sit in the box for a few hours while I took a siesta. 

    One is the Crown, One is an old Crosman 160 CO2
    Pics Pics Pics….
    First thing I did was get into the barrel to clean it. Since the Crown comes with a generic FX manual, I gave AoA a quick call to make sure I was going to disassemble the rifle correctly. Here’s where my Crown story begins….
    You do NOT have to disassemble the rifle down this far in order to get the barrel out. In fact, you can remove it by simply moving your scope out of the way to access the setscrews. But, since I was in there, I figured I’d share some interesting pics with you guys…



    The little black thing is a plastic fitting cover. It fits on nice and snug. I think it will do a better job at dust protection than the magnetic ones. 

     

    It only makes sense that this would be the reg adjustment. Looks like mine is set at 135 but, these gauges are known to be a little off. So… +/-.
    If I were to adjust it, I would only use the gauge as a guide. 

    Trigger is fully adjustable including blade height, angle, and front to back. I’ll have to look into this more since I like a very light trigger. 


    NICE! Pre-labeled probes! :) 

    That little silver post is what aligns the barrel. Just like the Impact.

    Disassembly WARNING! Watch out for these two little springs! (The silver disc is my magnet)

    Looks very similar to the Impact here.

    THIS is why I wanted to get to the barrel for cleaning. That first patch came out quite black. I cleaned with patches first, then moved on to a cleaning pellet and pushrod.
    I believe it is very important to take this first step before shooting any airgun for the first time. 

    WOW!!!!
    Just… WOW!!!
     
    And, notice the adjustable butt pad.

    Sometimes it really pays off to be among the first to order a new rifle! I think this might be an “experimental” grade 2 stock? I haven’t heard of a grade 2 option for these but, this is simply gorgeous! A little paint thinner gives me a sneak peek at what this will look like after the finish is applied…


    (Yup.. Satin finish)

    Back of the power wheel. Those steel balls are NOT held in place by anything but grease! This is another disassembly WARNING!

    Safety switch. 

    FX, lose the pointer!  Great design but it’s sharp, and can catch on clothing when it’s on “fire” and it gouges the stock when it’s on “safe”. Just keep it round and put a simple indicator line on it. 

    I’d guess this is how to remove the probe. I have no reason to remove it so, I didn’t try.

    Rear stock screw 3mm. I’ll post more on stock removal/installation below. 


     

    Front stock screw 4mm

    The tongue of the stock is only 5/16″ thick. I wish it were a little thicker for installation of an atlas rail. This is probably going require heli-coil inserts. 

    Will the “X” be available for the Impact? I really can’t see why not and it might be a game changer for the Impact owners! Here’s the bottom of the barrel and transfer port. Look familiar? :)

    Top of barrel and indents from the barrel set screws. 
    Unlike the Royale, which needs it’s indents to be re-aligned perfectly, the Crown’s barrel uses a slot to re-align everything easily and precisely. 

    Rear of shroud with tube removed.


    Front of barrel. This is as far as I took it. I have no intention on pulling the sleeve out at this time.


    I was wondering how the rifling was going to “come in.” On the standard smooth twist, it comes to a point where the pellet first hits it. On the “X” it start abruptly. But… it runs the whole length!

    To remove the shroud…
    Extend it,
    Rotate it until it locks in place (using the little silver post),
    Unscrew it and carefully pull it forward off the barrel. That’s it.
    No locktite. When re-installing, make sure to guide the tube along the barrel to keep it from hitting the barrel and bottle. 

    The Crown mag is a mirror image of the Impact mag.

    The Impact mag…
    Yes, it fits. No, I would not recommend it. You’ll need “sky scraper” tall scope rings! lol
    Also, The Royale mags fit as well as the black single shot loaders. 

    Some groups.
    Before you judge these groups, read this!!!
    These are some of my first groups and were shot primarily to get a feel for the rifle, not to shoot the best groups I could. I did try to do my part to shoot it well, the rest is up to a rifle that has a lot going against it at this point… It just had a thorough cleaning of the barrel, didn’t wait to re-lead it, no idea what velocity it’s at, never shot it before, have no clue what pellets I’m shooting (unsorted, to say the least) other than they were .25’s, using a scope I dropped by mistake a few days ago, off sandbags, no trigger adjustment, no adjustment of any kind, maxed out on settings (just like it came to me), and a regulator that’s surely still settling itself in. And, all of these are at 100 yards.

    16 shots ~2-1/4″ @ 100 yards. One went above the edge but, that was all my fault. What this picture can’t show you is what I see happening through the scope. A pellet hits the target and leaves a splat. The next pellet lands on the same splat. The next pellet lands on the same splat again! This is a pretty rare experience at 100 yards. Especially when you consider that these are unsorted, unknown pellets. They might even be a batch with different skirt depths! But, it keeps happening over and over. You can see that the bulk of these shots landed above the drilled hole in about a 1″ group and again slightly to to the right in about a 1″ group. 

    Here’s a 5 shot group @ 100 yards that made a nice arc. That’s 3/4″ Left to Right! This is after I changed some settings.

    Here’s another 5 shots (2 landed in the same spot). That looks like 3/8″ to me. This is a hanging target that swings when hit. It hangs right above my big 100 yard metal plate. 


    Oh yeah, winds were 0-2mph, head-on. Really nice day to shoot! 

    I’m not trying to pat myself on the back here. I can tell that this rifle is still sorting itself out internally from how it’s shooting. It stacks for a few then tosses a flier. Then a few more and maybe a few fliers. But, when it stacks them… It STACKS them! 
    The 16 shot group was shot at max power. It felt like it was shooting a bit too hot. So, I dropped the transfer port to #1 and dropped the power to B. Well, I couldn’t even see where they were landing in my scope (lol) so I bumped it up to something like 2 and D. Then they poi’d at about 5 mils down. So, I just ran with it and had fun. I even skipped the magazine (Royale) and hand loaded. My cross hairs were probably about a foot above my poi at these settings. lol

    How to remove the stock…
    There are 4 pieces/screws holding the stock in and they all have different size screws. You’ll need 2, 2.5, 3, and 4mm allen wrenches. 
    Take the safety and power wheel off first.
    Safety uses a 2.5mm
    Power wheel uses a 2mm. Remember to watch out for the steel balls and springs! 
    Then there are two stock screws. I’d remove the rear 3mm first. The pressure gauges can get beat up when removing the stock and this leaves the front 4mm screw supporting the stock around them. 

    Barrel removal…
    I didn’t take a picture, sorry. It looks very similar to the top of a Royale. In the center of the forward dovetail are three setscrews. You only need to remove the front two. They are 3mm.

    Power Wheel – 2mm
    Safety – 2.5mm
    Rear stock – 3mm
    Front Stock – 4mm
    Barrel – 3mm (x2)

    It’s too early to have a hands down solid opinion on this rifle. However, there are some VERY promising things happening with it and if it continues to impress me like it has today, it has the potential to quickly become my top shooter, surpassing even my Royale 400!
    Happy Shooting!
    Tom

    Note: PLEASE DON’T QUOTE ALL THESE PICTURES! It makes the thread harder to read. 

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    intenseaty22
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    Thorough much? Very nice Tom, congrats!

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    Dirte
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    Well you scored some more nice lumber. Beautiful!

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    Menttaliist
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    What a nice review as always Tom! And for some reason i laugh my a** off when i saw that Impact magazine fitted on the Crown, seems unreal to use.
    Regarding the accuracy of the gauges and use them to make reg adjustments, i think it may be a good idea to check the bottle gauge and compare the showed pressure with the one on your tank/handpump and then change it with the reg one. On that way you will know the real exact pressure of the reg and you will be able to make precise adjustments to it, just make sure to take notes of the pressures showed on that gauge vs the one on your tank/handpump. I hope you got me :)

    p.s. This thread it’s gonna get loooong for sure, be ready to answer a ton of questions ;)

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    Tominco
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    I got you! :) 
    I’ve already looked into it. It reads 10 bar off, low IIRC. I use a regulator on my fill bottle so that I don’t ever have to worry about overfilling and I so I can shoot tethered if I need to.
    Thanks for the tip!
    T

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    Tominco
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    Now… Where are my exploding golf balls??

     

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    jlc
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    You obviously know something about assembly and disassembly of air guns.

    You’ve had the gun for a day and know more about it than i know about my Marauders that i have had for 7 years, :)

    Beautiful gun and nice shooting at 100 yards.

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    Tominco
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    @intenseaty22 and @jlc
    LOL! Thanks!

    The stuff I’m doing is really just “Getting to know you” type of things with a rifle like this. Very similar to the way I got to know my Impact. I’m not voiding any warranty stuff, I’m just getting familiar with it right away so that I’m not hesitant later on. ;)
    T

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    Kitplanenut
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    Nice write up Tom. That’s a great looking piece of wood. Has more character then the one I got. Couple of questions. What are you going to put on your stock? I want to seal my crown before it gets any discoloration around the pestle grip like my Boss has. 2nd question is where did you get your fill setup so you can tether. That would be an excellent way to check the reg pressure gauge on the gun.  Just from what little I have shot mine and what I have read from others, if we can get them shooting the 33 grain like they are shooting the 25 grain, these are going to make exceptional 100 yard guns. Look out EBR. Sylvan

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    John_in_Ma
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    Wow Tom the stock is Gorgeous. Time will tell but this may be my first FX gun, though no time soon. Good luck with the break in, I’m sure it will shoot well for you.

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    jcjc
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    great write up-thanks for taking the time to do that. the wood on mine is very nice and I’ve no complaints but yours is superb.

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    Maineiac
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    Well done Tom!

    It appears FX has used better gauges than on the Impact. There are actually hash marks between 100 and 150! 🙂

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    Wadcutter
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    Congrats on the rifle. I’m anxious to see how she performs when you get her all dialed in. Thanks for sharing.

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    AirSupply
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    Congratulations Tom. Thanks so much for all the info. We are lucky to have you here.  That stock is a ripper!

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    BigsStick
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    Your wood gives me wood.

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    AirSupply
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    Tom can the barrel be turned/ indexed. The silver section that the securing bolts tighten against isn’t indented like the impact. Is there some adjustment where the barrel could be turned?? 
    Thanks Michael

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    Deja
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    Really nice and some very respectable groups. Awesome stock, enjoy

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    Gunnertrones
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    Good looking, and very well preformed first shoots.

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    Ravenred
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    😍💖💕💘 WOW!…….. must, have,one,more!  

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    AirSupply
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    Hats off to FX for making the barrel almost plug and play for the Impact. In fact it could be plug and play without any modification if those small ridges in silver band align correctly with the Impact barrel screw. 
    Many where skeptical they would do this but it looks like they have. Even if it means machining a retaining divot like the impact barrel that’s not a big deal and because it’s on the side it won’t interfere with the Crown bolts on top. 
    So then they would be totally interchangeable. 
    Those groups are very good. Most have found the King Heavys to more accurate than normal Kings
    If that proves to be true with the Crown they will have to be amazing!
    Do you know the twist rate for your barrel Tom?
    Thanks again. 

     

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