To date this edgun r3m 22 cal. is the most....

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accurate airgun i have ever owned . I have owned basically all the brands except daystate and i stretch all my airguns out to 100yards in my backyard. The edguns trigger isnt the best and the cocking lever isnt perfect either but you can feel the pellet going in so its no big deal. With all these bullpups coming out i would look very serious at the edgun and this is coming from a guy that really works his airguns almost everyday.
 
Because they were all trying to be more than just an Edgun, it may have started it but others came along and made it there own, and add to it. So why go back when you can go forward. Its easy for one person to say its the most accurate in there cabinet, even Ted says it from time to time Edgun, bobcat, and now the Impact is his most accurate. Mine was the AirArms s510 and now its the Cricket, and tomorrow it may be the Vulcan. Accuracy is more than just the tool, many guns are accurate. So my only thought to this post is for Edgun, its time to step up, keep up, or move over.
 
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"Scott_MCT"Ted raves on the Ed Guns for good reason, but the designs have progressed as a result of Ed Gun. Now it's time for them to release the next design based off the one that changed the industry.
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Tell me, please, why everybody needs "new design" if the "old" one is good enough. That is a kind of race for something new jsut to race not to get real better thing?
 
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"EDgun"
"Scott_MCT"Ted raves on the Ed Guns for good reason, but the designs have progressed as a result of Ed Gun. Now it's time for them to release the next design based off the one that changed the industry.
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Tell me, please, why everybody needs "new design" if the "old" one is good enough. That is a kind of race for something new jsut to race not to get real better thing?
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The model T Ford and the rotary phone were "good enough" once. How many of those do you see today? Progress is just the nature of things. The newer guns are selling because they carry features that are clearly preferred by the consumers. Side lever mid cocking for one seems to be a highly touted design change. Also, this is coming from someone who is not a fan of bullpups. If, as someone who carry's little interest in bull pups is noticing this bias toward the newer design changes, the manufacturers of guns in the older style would likely benefit from being open to change as well or possibly end up a footnote in history along with the model T and rotary phone.

 
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The model T Ford and the rotary phone were "good enough" once. How many of those do you see today? Progress is just the nature of things. The newer guns are selling because they carry features that are clearly preferred by the consumers. Side lever mid cocking for one seems to be a highly touted design change. Also, this is coming from someone who is not a fan of bullpups. If, as someone who carry's little interest in bull pups is noticing this bias toward the newer design changes, the manufacturers of guns in the older style would likely benefit from being open to change as well or possibly end up a footnote in history along with the model T and rotary phone.
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OK, let's separate flys from cutlets :). Saying desing I ment the look of the gun, not the mechanism. Yes, you are right saying that new guns are sold because they are brinning new features. But the problem is that in some cases they bring not the new feature but the new expectations of the feature. We have a lot of examples like that in computers, phones, cars etc. The makers are running forward not to make the things better but to make new things, otherwise the client will consider him "old" and leave for other producer. And it happens that we still use things which were designed hundres years ago but made with new materials and technologies. 

Yes, I am interested to make new things but make new things not the things seems to be new. Do you understand the difference? If gun good enough to fulfill the wish of the client, why to change it?
 
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"Cliff_Allen"
The model T Ford and the rotary phone were "good enough" once. How many of those do you see today? Progress is just the nature of things. The newer guns are selling because they carry features that are clearly preferred by the consumers. Side lever mid cocking for one seems to be a highly touted design change. Also, this is coming from someone who is not a fan of bullpups. If, as someone who carry's little interest in bull pups is noticing this bias toward the newer design changes, the manufacturers of guns in the older style would likely benefit from being open to change as well or possibly end up a footnote in history along with the model T and rotary phone.
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OK, let's separate flys from cutlets :). Saying desing I ment the look of the gun, not the mechanism. Yes, you are right saying that new guns are sold because they are brinning new features. But the problem is that in some cases they bring not the new feature but the new expectations of the feature. We have a lot of examples like that in computers, phones, cars etc. The makers are running forward not to make the things better but to make new things, otherwise the client will consider him "old" and leave for other producer. And it happens that we still use things which were designed hundres years ago but made with new materials and technologies. 

Yes, I am interested to make new things but make new things not the things seems to be new. Do you understand the difference? If gun good enough to fulfill the wish of the client, why to change it?
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Because good enough is only good enough for today and sometimes feels like JUST settling. In business if you live in or for today you are already 2 steps behind.

There are only a few constants in life and one big one is "EVERYTHING CHANGES". No matter how great Edgun was or is, if it doesn't keep up with the change, (evolution if you will) it too will go the way of the dodo bird and the dinosaur. You are correct in saying somethings seem to be new but are not, that is because NEW is not easy if it were easy everyone would be doing it, it takes a special minds to come up with NEW. Then take that NEW and also make it GREAT, now that is as challenging as hitting a hole in one on a par three (golf reference). As good as the Edgun Matador still is, when pitted between a choice of something new and shiny with the hopes of being great and something old and proven, old and proven will lose out the majority of the time. It's just the way of the world we live in today. "Millennial's who knew?"
 
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Oh and I really don't want to come across as a Edgun hater because I believe the Matador will be in the airgun hall of fame like older folks speak of the Red Ryder BB gun (Baby Boomers). When people of my generation (Generation X) look back and talk about the great airguns of the past they will whisper in awe about Beeman R9, Air Arms TX200, Kalibru Cricket, and yes once all the mud slinging is over the FX Impact). But more to the point one of the MOST FAMOUS AIRGUN personality's of today TED HOLDOVER (people use your name when you get over a million hits on youtube its just the cost of fame) When was the last time he mentioned a Edgun product as his goto gun? i'm sure he still has it and still loves it and still shoots as great as it did so many years ago, but its about to get some company on that display mantel in his man cave where old great air guns go to die. Edgun Matador meet FX Bobcat LOL. 


Please no disrespect intended just pointing out my point of view towards change, growth and moving forward.
 
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As far as design goes, I personally find the Edgun still to be the nicest bullpup around.
Many things have changed in bullpup design, but the Edgun was the trendsetter in this regard. 
I really like the idea of the pre-tensioned barrel of the R3, very good thinking to make the barrel more rigid. 
Most new bullpups are just plain ugly to me, the gladius for instance makes my eyes bleed.......
 
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