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Time for a .177?

Forums PCP Airguns PCP Airgun – Discussion Time for a .177?

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    JDShapp
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    I’ve got plenty of PCP rifles to choose from now in various calibers and configurations. However last week I noticed I don’t have a single .177 in my PCP arsenal. So that’s lead me to window shopping, and the one thing I’ve noticed is there seems to be only two that match my taste for bullpups. I could see myself either having a Brocock Compatto, or a Kral Puncher Breaker. Overall setup wise I find myself leaning towards the Kral. I like the fact that the safety is in nearly the same position as my Wildcat. It being a lever action with a high count magazine also fits with what I like. The problem is I’ve not seen a single review, or found any significant posts on how it performs in .177.

    Now don’t get me wrong, I’ve heard the nasty issues about levers breaking and the valve stems on the rifles giving out on the higher calibers. I don’t imagine those would be problems for me given the most I’d do is use it for plinking or rat busting if I ever had to.

    So the thing I must know is there anyone out there that’s had some hands on experience with the Kral’s in .177?

     

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    intenseaty22
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    I don’t, but. I have owned the Compatto in .22, it shot really accurate, but shot count was low. The new regulated model may have improved that. 

    I sold the Compatto and now have a Cricket Mini. Looking at the Kral, I would think the Cricket is very similar in form factor, but a better gun. I think they come in .177. The Cricket bullpup anyway not the mini. 

    Good luck. 

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    Mick-VA
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    Don’t discount or overlook the Wildcat in .177. It’s small, light, regulated, accurate, repeatable, and a very good shot count from a small cylinder.

    http://www.airgunnation.com/topic/new-arrival-fx-unicorn/#post-200215

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    Kitplanenut
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    I plan on picking up a Wildcat in 177 while attending EBR. I just love the Wildcat, but they are getting a bit on the speedy side. Sylvan

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    Keyman62421
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    Consideration such as this is why I finally opted for the Impact “Annie”.   I have a Wildcat “Thor” in 22 and a Marauder22. 
    The caliber versatility of Annie is something I am contemplating when and if I decide to do some changing.

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    Yote
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    I owned the Karl had nothing but trouble from day one.The magazine was pure junk it has a thin plastic strip to Aline it in the gun .mine would only chamber a pellet once in few times would shave the pellet and Jam the gun up.to unJam it you had to  pound the mag out witch in return broke the clip. My 2cents the rifle is junk.went out and bought the wildcat no problems with it what so ever

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    BeemanR7
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    You guys are making it damn difficult for me to remain blindly loyal to my Beeman R7. My only reservation is that the Wildcat in .177 is nearly triple the power of my trusty R7. With my R7, if I get sloppy and miss a sparrow and hit one of my aluminum martin houses, the pellet just bounces off leaving only a small dent. But the Wildcat would blow a hole clean through my martin houses.

    My R7 was used when I got it over 30 years ago. I don’t know exactly when it was made but it was made before they started putting safeties on them. It’s been rode hard and put up wet, as they say. But it’s so accurate and reliable that I’ve never seriously considered replacing it. But there’s an empty slot in my gun cabinet right beside my R7 that a Wildcat would fill nicely. There are many occasions when my R7 just isn’t powerful enough to do the job, and a Wildcat in .177 would be just right!

    Things that make you go, “hmmm” :)

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    Element
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    Might consider a brocock Bantam I have this model in .177 very accurate and high shot count!

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    AirRanger
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    I also added a .177 to my collection about 4 months ago.it was a toss up between the Impact or an Airwolf and even though I’ve had zero issues with this Impact and it is laser accurate I’m seriously debating on trading it for a .177 Airwolf. Anyway I’m so glad I finally added a .177cal. to my collection because it’s now my current favorite.

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    glassman
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    I have had a compatto in .177 for over a 1 year now. I use it for plinking and pest control around the house. I added a full sized )Hugget moderator to it. (I like the slimmer cleaner lines of the Hugget), It had a defective O ring that was replaced under warranty (one of the advantages of living 30 minutes away from AoA). Since then no problems at all. Extremely accurate. I rarely shoot over 30 yards with it and it stacks pellets in one hole if you do your part at that range. With the Hugget it is very quiet. I would say it is just slightly louder than my .22 AirWolf which is “mouse fart” quiet. I have probably put just over 1k rounds through it with no problems. It has been awhile since I ran a shot string through the rifle and have not been able to find my compatto notebook since my wife “cleaned up” the area around my desk. Long story short: since the original o ring leak was fixed no problems with the type of shooting I have mentioned and over 1k shots through the rifle. I have been very pleased with it to date. I shot a variety of different pellets and have had no problems with accuracy at the ranges I have used the compatto. That being said I have settled down into using 2 pellets anymore: predator polymags with the tips removed (too long for the magazine otherwise they work fine with tips in the Rowan single shot loader I bought) and JSB Exact Heavy 10.34 grain diabolos. That has been my experience for what it is worth.

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    Element
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    My Bantam likes the crossman premier in the box form 10.5 grains .177 fantastic caliber!

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    xarus
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    I was thinking what about a Vulcan? it is a bit more expensive then the ones you where looking at but if it shoots like the .25 or .22 and comes with a hard case. just thought I would throw that out there.

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    jps2486
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    .177s are more accurate than .22s IMO.  Get a RAW.

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    aa_limited
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    raw would be awesome! I just bought one to replace my daysate air wolf for target shooting.. both are 177 and the accuracy of the raw is almost triple that of the air wolf.
    did you ever hear of the thimble or indexing the barrel.?
    ​trust me if you get a raw with thimble you will never want to get an air wolf.

    the raw I have btw is a 500bm with thimble and lrt stock.. amazing accuracy

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    Kdog
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    I recently got a Brocock Bantam in .177 with the soft touch finish and so far i am really enjoying the rifle.Has adjustable power from 18.5ft lbs on high power down to about 12 ft lbs on low power.Hi power you will get approximately 150 unregulated shots from 200 bar down to 100 bar but the shot cycle will be steep. On low power i chroned it yesterday and got 100 shots from 200 bar down to 150 bar so if i shot it down to 100 bar I’m sure you will get close to 200 shots.Im finding mine is most accurate with JSB heavies on high power with typical 5 shot groups you can cover with a dime or nickel at 50 yd.The trigger is a bit heavy without much adjustment but it is very consistant,,,,not a target trigger but u get use to it.Heres a few pics….


    this is a 5 shot group not 3 shots.

    Price is decent at $1100 for the soft touch finish and $1000 for the beach.I put a Huggett Bullita on mine but i can’t tell much difference between this and the factory reflex moderator.Comes with a 10 shot magazine although for some reason mine came with 2 mags(I’m not complaining) and overall length is 36″ from the factory in a semi bullpup design.

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    aa_limited
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    kdog?

    ​nice dog u have there I had one like it 30 years ago.
    miss her lots.

    ​can you show us some 25 yard groups with your compat? with those same pellets?
    ​would love to see some 25 yard groups

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    Kdog
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    Heres some 25 yd groups i just shot using the JSB heavies 10.3 shot from the Brocock Bantam

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    JDShapp
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    I think when I have some extra cash just burning a hole in my pocket I may go for a Bantam. Unfortunately that ain’t now since I discovered the regulator in my P-rod is having issues, and I figured if I’m going to spend money on it I might as well try some different things.

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