Thinking of selling Edgun .25 r5m to get FX Wildcat .30

Keep the Edgun and just buy the FX later if you really want it. There is no way I would ever trade up or sell an Edgun for an FX. No way. To many issues with them. I would love to have a wildcat personally but issues that plague FX make it a no go for me. I think that FX Airguns has moved into the you are paying for the name and not so much the airgun at this point. 
 
I personally wouldn't part with an Edgun to buy an FX. I think you are going to be really sorry in the long run if you do. You have to compare all of the PLEASE HELP ME!!! posts and count how many are for Edguns and how many are for FXs. The FXs are nice luxury items to have if you have the money and for show on the side to shoot once in a while to compliment your other guns and not your primary gun unless you are very mechanically inclined. You should phone an old fashioned well trusted veteran airgun tuner repair person and ask for his opinion on FX guns and he will tell you straight out the truth about their build quality.

I wouldn't buy an FX if it were my ONLY gun I depended on to shoot every day with. I have a Wildcat which I really like but worry about its reliability based on the overall complaints about FX but it is not my only gun so its fine and I hardly shoot it and keep it "Low Mileage" if you know what I mean. When it fails then I know I am going to have a professional install a HUMA regulator and replace all of the seals and o-rings with better quality ones.

If I had the money to blow and I didn't care, I would have multiple FX Impacts and Crowns in my collection because I know based on statistics that there is a very good probability at least one or two are going to be one in the shop so at least I have one or 2 to shoot at all times but I wouldn't own just one Impact or Crown until there comes a day of total silence where there are absolutely no more complaints about a new and improved reliable gen 3 or 4 version.

I think thats why many own multiple Impacts at one time because ones in the shop and need the extra guns to shoot and that is fine because they have the money to buy multiples of them to begin with.



CA
 
CA - What statistics? I hear some folks here complain - and rightly so for a gun that costs $1000 to $2400 if something is wrong, but I've yet to see any stats on how many FX guns are returned. Just a handful of complaints. Edguns cost as much, but I have no idea on the sales figures compared to FX. I suspect Edgun sells maybe a 50th as many, so complaints on FX would naturally be more.

Help me out here!
 
My streamline was almost new and didn’t have very many rounds through it. I also want a Huma Reg due to creep( but I may be one of the few). It is very aggravating to get your gun out to shoot a starling and not hit it. So I’m wanting a gun to hunt with and not have creep so if it sits over night I can hit a starling. My gun came with the shroud loose, stock loose and a few other little issues. So yes some fix do have issues, it took them 6 weeks to fix the leaks. I’m going to keep the gun and put a Huma in it to fix the creep so i can use it for the purpose I got it. 
 
CA - What statistics? I hear some folks here complain - and rightly so for a gun that costs $1000 to $2400 if something is wrong, but I've yet to see any stats on how many FX guns are returned. Just a handful of complaints. Edguns cost as much, but I have no idea on the sales figures compared to FX. I suspect Edgun sells maybe a 50th as many, so complaints on FX would naturally be more.

Help me out here!

I was specifically using he Crown and Impact as examples. I do own Edguns as well as FX guns and never had a single problem with any Edguns and did have issues with FXs and knowing that I still bought the Wildcat and if I had multiples of it I would really shoot it more.

Don't get me wrong, I do like FX guns and if I had the means, I would buy several of each of the Impacts and Crowns. I am not a tinkering type of person and just like to shoot them as received and would have to send them out for warranty if they were any problems.

CA
 
This needs to be highlighted more: the sales volume bias phenomenon. I've seen this happen on forums before, and will see it happen on forums again. Whatever people buy, they will have problems with. Some of those problems will be factory issues, some will be created by the user, and some will be entirely imagined. There are several biases which occur here. I have never, NEVER, seen any accurate data sampling on the relative defect rates of different airgun manufacturers. There is huge anecdotal evidence though that FX is currently doing really really well in the market and selling a LOT of guns, many of them to relatively inexperienced users. This would naturally lead to a lot of user generated reports on the forum with high google search ranking, which tends to be this forum. Contrast that with EdGun. A much smaller scale botique manufacturer, where the guns are hard to get, the reviews (particularly on high profile channels) are much more scarce, and at least stateside where there is only really one retailer and he doesn't have the full model/option range. What is that going to do to user generated reports of faults? It is going to suppress them, because there are going to be a lot fewer sales and what sales do occur are largely going to be to more experienced airgunners. This is going to result in a tiny fraction of the number of issues reported on this forum. Unfortunately that means there is absolutely nothing to create a useful dataset on this forum, and it also creates a confirmation bias: if you start thinking FX has problems, you're going to start seeing those problems everywhere. I've seen this happen before on other forums with other products, and I'm sure I'll see it again too. 

To be clear I'm not saying whether FX has a higher defect rate or a lower defect rate than EDgun or Daystate or anyone else, I'm saying nobody here has provided any data to suggest anything one way or another. Given the absence of such data, and a very reasonable explanation for the flaws in user-reporting on a forum, I think it is irresponsible to "authoritatively inform" people of the "problems which plague FX guns." The plural of anecdote is not data, and we should keep that in mind. 

You want an example of this weird untrue FX bias/rumor/malarkey flying around here? I see, time and again, the argument made that FXs only shoot JSB pellets. And this has been marched out into mantra now, where you can practically say it unchallenged. What? What kind of ridiculousness is that. I don't keep a lot of different pellets on hand, but I went out just this Sunday and shot a couple groups out of an FX Crown at 100 yards with JSB, Crossman Premier HP, and H&Ns. And you know what? They all shot well. <2MOA 10 shot groups on a day with a breeze, some drizzle, and casual shooting is pretty good in my book. So again, another myth to dispel about FX. 


As far as what gun to go with, OP, to be honest I'd stick with the .25 for two reasons. 1) Any gun you have which is a shooter is a keeper. I realize some people get bored of guns and want to trade up, but I also tend to remember those people later expressing regrets. Never sell a shooter you love. It has been good to you, so keep your EdGun whether or not you want to go in on an FX later. 2) .30 was super hyped and sexed at one point, but things are starting to swing back around to the .25 and in some cases even .22. You're playing something of a balancing game of cross-sectional area for air to work on the pellet to generate power, and the same cross-sectional area for the wind to work against the pellet. As we're running higher pressures ever more efficiently, I see .30 (especially given how expensive it is, sheesh) fading out as people move toward heavier smaller diameter pellets for better ballistics relative to air consumption and properly big big bores for people who really need monster power for hunting larger or more dangerous game. There is plenty in this paragraph to disagree with, particularly my speculation on where the industry is going caliber-wise as god knows it is just my educated guess. But I hope you left with two nuggets of wisdom which are to be suspicious of forum mantra and never sell a gun which shoots great and you love. 

My 2c. 
 
I was just recently strongly considering (2 weeks ago)selling my issue less. 25 Impact to fund a R5m. I bought it from a member here about 3 months ago. It just so happens that he was like me in the sense that he kept hearing this and that that Edgun was the sh*t when it comes to our hobby. He ended up selling the Impact to me. I reached out to him because he did in fact buy the R5m and posted his personal experiences w it. I told him what I was planning to do and guess what ? He said keep the Impact and forget about the Edgun. Crazy loud ping when discharging it and hated the trigger. Staying with my non-issue , quiet, ridiculously accurate and delightful trigger.. THANK YOU
 
While on this subject there is yet another FX regulator issue posted by another minority.

I have to admit the trigger on my Wildcat is a heck of lot better than the one on my Edgun.

Edgun triggers don't seem to be anywhere near match grade in feel at all which need to get used to.

My 25 Taipan Veteran short is just as accurate as my 25 Edgun at 100 yards and seems to be easier

to shoot with a much better trigger.



CA