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I agree with his overall point, that is isn’t worth his time designing slug guns until standardized slugs become available.

However, for a few lines he indicates that there’s no such thing as a plug and play slug that works great without lots of tuning by the shooter. That just isn’t true. Matching a slug to a barrel and getting hole in hole results is often no different than matching a the right pellet to a barrel. You simply find a slug your gun likes, and then point your gun and shoot it. Often tuning the gun isn’t necessary. The designer of the bullet may have put a lot of time into designing it, but all I did as the shooter was order the slugs and drop them into my gun. 
 
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I agree with his overall point, that is isn’t worth his time designing slug guns until standardized slugs become available.

However, for a few lines he indicates that there’s no such thing as a plug and play slug that works great without lots of tuning by the shooter. That just isn’t true. Matching a slug to a barrel and getting hole in hole results is often no different than matching a the right pellet to a barrel. You simply find a slug your gun likes, and then point your gun and shoot it. Often tuning the gun isn’t necessary. The designer of the bullet may have put a lot of time into designing it, but all I did as the shooter was order the slugs and drop them into my gun.
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I concur with your points about getting slugs to work can be like pellets. I also agree with Ed that it makes no business sense to produce airguns for slug use without a major manufacture source of slugs. I had a Russian friend passed away recently who enrich mine and other lives he touch. I will miss him very much. He was gruff at times and no BS but had a heart of gold. I appreciate what Ed does for us with high quality rifles and listening to what we think. Bill
 
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The world has changed a lot since Ed made his statement about slugs and slug barrels available. Fantastic and plenty mass produced slugs on the market meanwhile. FX is fully in the game Kalibrgun will introduce a slug dedicated W60 in short... No way this trend will stop and most rifle producers let FX run away from them by not reacting swift enough. Zillions of “ Knock Outs from JSB, H&N slugs, Nielsen slugs , FX Hybrid slugs etc leave the shops in favor of those guns shooting them well. Ed better reacts in order to keep his innovativ status. Unless he has closed the doors already due to having earned enough money....😜. Ed ....? 
 
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I think he will produce the slug guns & or barrels, as well as continue to innovate. However, something tells me he isn’t worried about the competition or loosing business to others. I think he will release said product on Эдган Time.

People like this create and innovate because it’s what they do, they simply don’t stop because they have enough money. Otherwise the Bill Gates of this world would have closed shop long ago. 
 
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The world has changed a lot since Ed made his statement about slugs and slug barrels available. Fantastic and plenty mass produced slugs on the market meanwhile. FX is fully in the game Kalibrgun will introduce a slug dedicated W60 in short... No way this trend will stop and most rifle producers let FX run away from them by not reacting swift enough. Zillions of “ Knock Outs from JSB, H&N slugs, Nielsen slugs , FX Hybrid slugs etc leave the shops in favor of those guns shooting them well. Ed better reacts in order to keep his innovativ status. Unless he has closed the doors already due to having earned enough money....😜. Ed ....?
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Do you know anything more on the KalibrGun slug rifle?
 
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Seems as though there are more and more slugs becoming available, and different weights and sizes in each caliber.And they are all over the place, no standards of any kind. And more and more becoming available all the time. Most seem to find one or a few that shoot great out of most of the existing barrels. Many seem to be shooting better out of “ non slug” ( choked) barrels then some of the non choked barrels. I think he’s brilliant for waiting to see if there will be a normalcy with slugs, right now it seems they are all over the place, weight, shape, hollow point, flat base, cupped base, length that you would have to still pick one particular slug to build there barrels around. And maybe find one in the middle that will still shoot others acceptable. But it’s still to early to tell where ( if) that will be. It’s got to be a pain in the ass trying to satisfy everybody crying over different wants, and wanting every thing done perfectly “ right know” I like his keep it simple, dependable, honest attitude. 
 
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Dropped a hundred bucks on different small batches of slugs for my .177. Some shot good. Some shot really good. Some were meh. Then I asked myself whether or not I really wanted to be shooting something with a BC that is about 10 times as high as basic JSB Exact or H&N FTT? So I ran the numbers and decided that I don't really feel like shooting something that I had to worry about hitting someone a few hundred yards down range. I mean if I want to do that, I will just drop $200.00 on a ticket for a silencer and go to a rimfire. Not faulting slug shooters, not at all, enjoy it, it is fascinating watching the industry progress Never the less I literally shoot "pellet guns" because they shoot "pellets". I guess the analogy is the guy who uses a sub 12 fpe rifle in his tin barn for the obvious reason.

Just my two.
 
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Dropped a hundred bucks on different small batches of slugs for my .177. Some shot good. Some shot really good. Some were meh. Then I asked myself whether or not I really wanted to be shooting something with a BC that is about 10 times as high as basic JSB Exact or H&N FTT? So I ran the numbers and decided that I don't really feel like shooting something that I had to worry about hitting someone a few hundred yards down range. I mean if I want to do that, I will just drop $200.00 on a ticket for a silencer and go to a rimfire. Not faulting slug shooters, not at all, enjoy it, it is fascinating watching the industry progress Never the less I literally shoot "pellet guns" because they shoot "pellets". I guess the analogy is the guy who uses a sub 12 fpe rifle in his tin barn for the obvious reason.

Just my two.
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Agree 100%. I will occasionally shoot slugs, but if I really want to shoot high BC slugs, especially at high FPEs (for an airgun) then I’ll use my .22 rimfire with a silencer.
 
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Guys as you all know I am new to this game, and I think slugs are very dependent on the caliber and you have to then treat your gun in a way like a firearm for down range safety reasons, i.e. 22LR aka no longer general backyard friendly.

Also, I appreciate Ed’s comment of, hey guys announcing something “new” every year is “stupid”. Why tease the consumer when the gun isn’t ready to ship out the door and get to the shelves. If Ed wants to keep things under wraps until the last moment like with the Leshiy 2, that is fine with me. Also, I feel it helps the product to be quality, reliability and durability (the 3 aren’t really the same thing) in the long term.

Lastly, Ed shows how REAL is when he says it makes no sense for an individual just to stick to “one brand” for all their stuff. Can ANYONE think of any and other for this scope, gun manufacture, publicly say these same words? My guess on the former is a big NO!

So as you can tell I respect Ed of EdGun, like I think most of us do, for being REAL which these days seems hard to find.
 
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