..............177 winchester domes.....they make old diana 45 t01 rifles sing , and the fwb 124 i just parted with loved them. gamo 220 really did well with them....... they are heavier , weight 9.7 grains , but chrono like lighter crosman pellets.....not sure who actually makes these , but there is french all over the tins..... here's the best part - the reason i started this thread : they are about $6 for 500 ct tin in the tractor supply stores here around fort worth ! cat's outta the bag now. also , they have the real crosman premiers (not the walmart crappy premier hp's) in .22 for $8....and sometimes i can find the cans that only have the red and blue , as the newer red white and blue cans have too many different head sizes.... it's about all tractor supply has in stock here for pellets....someone who orchestrated this really knows what they doing !! ...... be careful , tho....only the winchester domed have been good to me...the points and hollow points sucked.