I'm scratching my head on this. I have multiple questions at the end of this so please bear with me. The quick backstory is, I recently disassembled and re-assembled a new-ish Crosman NP break-barrel (added a mod, carbon-fiber shroud, different scope mount, stock re-finish, etc). Today I took it for a spin to get it re-zero'd and dispatch some pigeons.
I got it zero'd quickly at 27 yards. I then took a dozen pigeons out in short order. Then I came in and tried taking some more target shots. Things got interesting. I was shooting three different pellets (.177) all at 27 yards under the exact same conditions. Here is the sorta-GOOD:
H&N FTT's:
H&N Baracuda Hunter Extreme:
Gamo Rockets:
I had similar groupings before these. Now, I may not be the best shot in the world, so in each photo we could call that one stray a flyer, or user error. But I had just started to get it broken-in so I was happy with the groups tightening up (the gun was 6" groups out of the box with Crosman Premiers for the first 150 shots).
Question #1: I zeroed my rifle in at 27 yards with the 8.64 gr FTT's. The Baracuda's and Gamo Rockets weigh in at 9.6-ish gr but hit slightly higher at POI. Why? I measured a lot of the pellets. The FTT's had a head diameter around 4.50 mm average, with 4.66 mm skirts. The Baracuda's averaged 4.51 head diameter with 4.68 mm skirts, and the Gamo Rockets measured around 4.51 mm with 4.66 mm skirts. Interestingly, the Rockets beat the H&N's in accuracy, which I did not previously expect. I did expect the Baracuda's to fail to the FTT's, although I still find the result acceptable.
Before these shots were taken, I cleaned the barrel. After I took the shots that you see above, accuracy went to crap, BAD. The square-foot back-stop I was using was completely missed on the next 6 shots, about 14" off center, slightly to the right but mostly low. Out of 6 shots, 3 of them were FTT's, and 2 were a Baracuda and 1 was a Rocket. Same result.
I did not touch anything on my scope, although I feared the worst. It is a Discovery VT-R 4-16x42 AOE. Mechanically, I couldn't see anything that changed. I changed my hold a bit, and fired the next 5 shots with Gamo Rockets only... All 5 hit in the squares you see in the photos. Then I ran 5 FTT's through... Flyers everywhere, a foot right and low. Ran Baracuda's through, a foot right and low. Ran Gamos through, a foot right and low. I walked away for about 10 minutes shaking my head.
I came back, never changed a thing, I shot 10 more FTT's through and hit all 10 within a dime of my aim.
I can't seem to notice any mechanical change in my setup. I have hesitated to clean the barrel again because most consider that a curse... So what am I doing wrong? Should I attempt cleaning the barrel? The only thing I changed to the mechanics inside was adding a mod, but I see no signs of pellet clipping. The only other thing I noticed was that the Baracuda's seemed to load in the breach somewhat tight... Not "I need a hammer" tight, but tight enough to be worthy to notice the extra effort. Is it possible I loaded up the rifling with lead and it's screwing with me?
Any advice is welcome. This is a different beast than the powder-burners I am used to.
I got it zero'd quickly at 27 yards. I then took a dozen pigeons out in short order. Then I came in and tried taking some more target shots. Things got interesting. I was shooting three different pellets (.177) all at 27 yards under the exact same conditions. Here is the sorta-GOOD:
H&N FTT's:
H&N Baracuda Hunter Extreme:
Gamo Rockets:
I had similar groupings before these. Now, I may not be the best shot in the world, so in each photo we could call that one stray a flyer, or user error. But I had just started to get it broken-in so I was happy with the groups tightening up (the gun was 6" groups out of the box with Crosman Premiers for the first 150 shots).
Question #1: I zeroed my rifle in at 27 yards with the 8.64 gr FTT's. The Baracuda's and Gamo Rockets weigh in at 9.6-ish gr but hit slightly higher at POI. Why? I measured a lot of the pellets. The FTT's had a head diameter around 4.50 mm average, with 4.66 mm skirts. The Baracuda's averaged 4.51 head diameter with 4.68 mm skirts, and the Gamo Rockets measured around 4.51 mm with 4.66 mm skirts. Interestingly, the Rockets beat the H&N's in accuracy, which I did not previously expect. I did expect the Baracuda's to fail to the FTT's, although I still find the result acceptable.
Before these shots were taken, I cleaned the barrel. After I took the shots that you see above, accuracy went to crap, BAD. The square-foot back-stop I was using was completely missed on the next 6 shots, about 14" off center, slightly to the right but mostly low. Out of 6 shots, 3 of them were FTT's, and 2 were a Baracuda and 1 was a Rocket. Same result.
I did not touch anything on my scope, although I feared the worst. It is a Discovery VT-R 4-16x42 AOE. Mechanically, I couldn't see anything that changed. I changed my hold a bit, and fired the next 5 shots with Gamo Rockets only... All 5 hit in the squares you see in the photos. Then I ran 5 FTT's through... Flyers everywhere, a foot right and low. Ran Baracuda's through, a foot right and low. Ran Gamos through, a foot right and low. I walked away for about 10 minutes shaking my head.
I came back, never changed a thing, I shot 10 more FTT's through and hit all 10 within a dime of my aim.
I can't seem to notice any mechanical change in my setup. I have hesitated to clean the barrel again because most consider that a curse... So what am I doing wrong? Should I attempt cleaning the barrel? The only thing I changed to the mechanics inside was adding a mod, but I see no signs of pellet clipping. The only other thing I noticed was that the Baracuda's seemed to load in the breach somewhat tight... Not "I need a hammer" tight, but tight enough to be worthy to notice the extra effort. Is it possible I loaded up the rifling with lead and it's screwing with me?
Any advice is welcome. This is a different beast than the powder-burners I am used to.