The Death of the Royale???

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    Dirte
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    I noticed that several dealers are selling the Royale for a higher price than the new Crown. I would think that the majority, would be purchasing the Crown over the Royale, considering it’s adjustability. I would also believe that FX would drop the price of the Royale, or they will be phasing it out. The Royale is a great gun but how does it compete against the Crown at that price point?

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    mubhaur
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    Royale is a pretty trouble free tested platform 

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    swampjunkie
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    I have a friend who lives in Sweden. I asked him to check on a Crown for me as he is coming Stateside in a couple of months.He spoke to a local dealer and the dealer had never heard of the Crown. Seemed odd to me but it is not listed on there official
    FX website either. I think it is a no brained to go for a Crown with the power options in the US but where limited to 12fpe it would
    be little advantage imo. Agreed Royal is a solid proven platform.
     

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    blackdiesel
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    I doubt it, people still buy the Wildcat when the Impact is out there.  I would think FX would lower the price for the Royale so the two guns will not compete with each other.

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    Dirte
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    “blackdiesel”I doubt it, people still buy the Wildcat when the Impact is out there.  I would think FX would lower the price for the Royale so the two guns will not compete with each other.

    
That’s my feeling that they will drop it to the $1300-1400 range.

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    Hynzie
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    that would be a great price for the royale ,,i hope hey dont increase the crown price,, ,fx seems to be leading the way forward,,  i like it pat ..

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    jps2486
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    Any machine or implement that’s intended to do multiple functions seems never to do any of them right.  I can’t tell you how many tools etc. that I’ve bought that the manufacturer claims can be converted from one function to another really did anything well.  I would tend to buy a Royal before the Crown.  If Royal prices drop, better grab one or two.

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    weatherby
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    Facts:

    *Royale has proven itself 10000+ times
    *Less adjustability = less trouble to setup and mess up (anyone remember the Impact? ;) )
    *Royale can be overhauled within 30 minutes
    *Royale is a rather troublefree platform.

    *Crown is totally new, yet has to prove itself.
    *Crown will probably have a long waiting list.
    *Crown can be complex to set up for inexperienced shooters, with the likelyhood to mess things up just like the Impact.

    It is a great thing that FX is so innovative, but I imagine it can be a nightmare for dealers.
    The market seems to get saturated with new guns, and suddenly a popular model becomes hard to sell because a new model comes out… Just like Hatsan, too many models IMO.

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    mubhaur
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    Very true Weatherby 
    Crown is going to create problem for dealers as Impact has done.

    But the keen users and those who understand the gun might like it.

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    craiger862
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    Well shoot boys, I’m about to get both tomorrow. .22 Royal and .25 Crown in the mail. I’m brand new to PCP’s so I’ll let you know how they treat me. 

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    Glem.Chally
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    “craiger862”Well shoot boys, I’m about to get both tomorrow. .22 Royal and .25 Crown in the mail. I’m brand new to PCP’s so I’ll let you know how they treat me. 

    
Ooof,  you must be excited.  As a Royale owner myself get ready to get blown away,  the Crown ain’t no slouch either haha.

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    Dirte
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    “weatherby”Facts:

    *Royale has proven itself 10000+ times
    *Less adjustability = less trouble to setup and mess up (anyone remember the Impact? ;) )
    *Royale can be overhauled within 30 minutes
    *Royale is a rather troublefree platform.

    *Crown is totally new, yet has to prove itself.
    *Crown will probably have a long waiting list.
    *Crown can be complex to set up for inexperienced shooters, with the likelyhood to mess things up just like the Impact.

    It is a great thing that FX is so innovative, but I imagine it can be a nightmare for dealers.
    The market seems to get saturated with new guns, and suddenly a popular model becomes hard to sell because a new model comes out… Just like Hatsan, too many models IMO.

    
Like I stated earlier the Royale is a great rifle. I will never sell mine. One of the reasons I ordered a laminate Crown over another walnut similar  to my Royale. I would also give up my Impact before I gave up my Royale.
    We all know that more o’rings, means more leaks. I still believe it will be hard to justify selling the Royale for more money than the Crown that has all the bells and whistles. I’m sure it cost more to manufacture also. I think the Royale will fill a niche between the Streamline and Crown. With all the following of the Royale I bet several other FX models will go.

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    AirSupply
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    Don’t you think the Crown is simpler than the Impact. The Impact may go down as the only fx gun with a valve adjuster. I don’t think we’ll see that again. The port ajustment is much simpler and means everything isn’t as spread out like the Impact. 
    Does the Crown have less orings? Surely it does. 
    Still has the adjustable regulator that can cause issues for people. 
    The other up side for the Royal is it will still be able to take advantage of the xst barrel when they become available. 
     New Royale’s may come with that barrel soon don’t you think. 

     

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    weatherby
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    “AirSupply”Don’t you think the Crown is simpler than the Impact. The Impact may go down as the only fx gun with a valve adjuster. I don’t think we’ll see that again. The port ajustment is much simpler and means everything isn’t as spread out like the Impact. 
    Does the Crown have less orings? Surely it does. 
    Still has the adjustable regulator that can cause issues for people. 
    The other up side for the Royal is it will still be able to take advantage of the xst barrel when they become available. 
     New Royale’s may come with that barrel soon don’t you think. 

     

    Agree Michael :)
    Only thing I think will happen, is that the Crown will eventually replace the Royale because it is actually a Royale 2.0 :)

    When the Crown proves to be just as reliable as the Royale, the latter one will become kind of obsolete IMO.
    I too think the design of the Crown will be less prone to issues than the impact, because the weak spots of the Impact are now integrated into the receiver.

    But the mighty Royale sure will never die  :) 


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    craiger862
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    I’ve had my Crown for all of about an hour. It has all the right stuff as a first impression. It’s a laser at 20yds, of course. It’s not as quiet as my Streamline with a Hugget, but should still be ok for shooting on my 1/4 ac residential lot. The thing I did notice right away is the magazine is kind of cruddy to load. Pellets don’t just drop in like on the Streamline .22, but maybe that’s common with .25’s? I like that it’s shorter than the Huggeted Streamline, so it fits in my shorter cases. 

    Anyway, I’ll get it properly filled and out to distance and check back in. 

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    Hi craiger, 
    Congratulations on your Crown! How does she feel when you shoulder her? Do you have the adjustable cheek rest? I am interested to know what your accuracy is at 50, 75, & 100 yards with both the JSB 25.4 gr. Kings at 900-920 ft/s, and the JSB 33.95 gr. King Heavy pellets at 800-840 ft/s. I am trying to decide on purchasing one of these rifles…but before I do I would like to see if it lives up to the claims of “moa groups at 100 yards” I have been hearing lately.

    I am definitely going to install one of the new .25 cal. X barrels on my Streamline and maybe one on my Wildcat to see for myself if there is a significant difference in accuracy over the standard O.E.M. barrels I have in my guns now. And if they mate up correctly I will probably purchase a .22 barrel and a .177 barrel also. The SmoothTwist X barrels add an entirely new dimension of flexibility to some of the other rifles in the FX line up. They may end up making more on the sales of SmoothTwist X barrels than they do on the Crowns.

    I agree wholeheartedly with the prediction that the standard FX Royale will be available for many years to come, and I also agree that this would be the perfect time for the price on the Royale’s to come down to the $1300-$1400 price range. Especially when you consider that the the Streamline will do everything the Royale will but just with less shots…now if FX ever puts a SmoothTwist X barrel and a 480cc bottle on the Streamline…:-)

    Best regards, Chuck

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    luke
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    The Crown seems to be the perfect gun. It is the most accurate, most versatile, most reliable gun out there. A true one size fits all with multiple barrels for any desired caliber. Pricey,  but perfection has a price.

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