Texan upgrade worth it?

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I have a Gen 1 texan 45 that is very accurate at 75-100 yards with a 350Grain slug. I would like the SS version and the CF bottle.



1. I can buy new 45 SS Texan CF for 1400

2. Add a moderator for $200 to my current texan

3. Add a moderator for $200 and the new CF Bottle for $420 = $650

4. Sell current gun for the new set up

Is the CF bottle worth the extra power for the money? 

Typically shooting hogs and coyote on my property



thanks 




 
My two cents, you will be getting a shorter, less powerful, quieter gun. Your shooting 350 grain slugs with good results, the 220 grain slugs seem to work better in the SS. The bark from the SS will send anything you miss out of sight the same as your Texan. The SS with a light one inch tube scope is manageable for off hand shooting, adding a shroud puts about a foot on your gun, not to mention the weight and length. Your dealing with a gun with the stock bottle where your going to get several consistent shots. A small carbon fiber tank, like the Benjamin easy to carry and also increases your shot count.
 
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My two cents, you will be getting a shorter, less powerful, quieter gun. Your shooting 350 grain slugs with good results, the 220 grain slugs seem to work better in the SS. The bark from the SS will send anything you miss out of sight the same as your Texan. The SS with a light one inch tube scope is manageable for off hand shooting, adding a shroud puts about a foot on your gun, not to mention the weight and length. Your dealing with a gun with the stock bottle where your going to get several consistent shots. A small carbon fiber tank, like the Benjamin easy to carry and also increases your shot count.
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thanks. I would be stationary when shooting. I was gonna get the Neil Clauge shroud but think its too long. I looked at the Hunters Supply version at 5". I really want to shoot without hearing protection. That is my main reason for the shroud.
 
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My two cents, you will be getting a shorter, less powerful, quieter gun. Your shooting 350 grain slugs with good results, the 220 grain slugs seem to work better in the SS. The bark from the SS will send anything you miss out of sight the same as your Texan. The SS with a light one inch tube scope is manageable for off hand shooting, adding a shroud puts about a foot on your gun, not to mention the weight and length. Your dealing with a gun with the stock bottle where your going to get several consistent shots. A small carbon fiber tank, like the Benjamin easy to carry and also increases your shot count.
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thanks. I would be stationary when shooting. I was gonna get the Neil Clauge shroud but think its too long. I looked at the Hunters Supply version at 5". I really want to shoot without hearing protection. That is my main reason for the shroud.
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If I remember right you already threaded the barrel for a deflector on your older Texan I don't have one but I've heard a lot of good things about hunters supply shroud. 

I personally like the older valve better than the new one don't know but mine seems a lot more finiky for some reason (45SSL) 
 
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Just speculations here but:

Add a CF bottle to a standard valve would result in valve bind at higher pressures?

Or do you mean CF and TX2 combo? Thats makes way more sense!

How efficient is the standard SS compared to a good silencer?

Resell value of your (proven) gun + silencer, compared to a new gun?



Add a silencer now and then a CF+TX2 combo if pigs keep escaping!

A good bullet with a good (70% or better) meplat that'll drill a .45 hole right through an animal is the key. That big hole on both sides lets loads of hydraulic fluids drain fast! A HP that stays inside an animal reiles on tissue destruction alone, not loss in blod pressure, to kill the animal.

Added power results in only minor speed and speed is what flattens the trajectory. So an added 100ftlbs is what?

350 grain slug BC .25 V0 780fps = 473ftlbs

350 grain slug BC .25 V0 850fps = 562ftlbs

Difference in trajectory (sighted in at 80yds):

0 yards 780fps 850fps

50 +4" + 3.3"

75 +1" +1"

85 -1.2" -1"

95 -4" -3.4"

105 -7½" -6.3"

115 -12" -10"



Nothing revolutionary there!

And adding bullet weight, slightly better BC and tweaking the speed to equal @650ftlbs would change very little in the ballistic curve. Still rainbow.

Thats the problem with PCP's: You need to add weight to add power, speed will pretty much stay the same. so no free lunch just with added energy.

As in most dragraces: run what you brung and hope you brought enough ;-)

Remember that a broadhead arrow will deliver no more than 3-8ftlbs to an animal in actual dissipated energy, but man oh man that wound channel and the blod it will drain out both sides.


 
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My two cents, you will be getting a shorter, less powerful, quieter gun. Your shooting 350 grain slugs with good results, the 220 grain slugs seem to work better in the SS. The bark from the SS will send anything you miss out of sight the same as your Texan. The SS with a light one inch tube scope is manageable for off hand shooting, adding a shroud puts about a foot on your gun, not to mention the weight and length. Your dealing with a gun with the stock bottle where your going to get several consistent shots. A small carbon fiber tank, like the Benjamin easy to carry and also increases your shot count.
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thanks. I would be stationary when shooting. I was gonna get the Neil Clauge shroud but think its too long. I looked at the Hunters Supply version at 5". I really want to shoot without hearing protection. That is my main reason for the shroud.
Click to expand...

If I remember right you already threaded the barrel for a deflector on your older Texan I don't have one but I've heard a lot of good things about hunters supply shroud. 

I personally like the older valve better than the new one don't know but mine seems a lot more finiky for some reason (45SSL)
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i do have a muzzle brake/break now. It was not a threaded version. I had the entire internals replaced at Airforce. So besides the body and barrel its new. Good to know on the older vs new valve. I may just opt for the shroud.



thanks buddy 
 
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Just speculations here but:

Add a CF bottle to a standard valve would result in valve bind at higher pressures?

Or do you mean CF and TX2 combo? Thats makes way more sense!

How efficient is the standard SS compared to a good silencer?

Resell value of your (proven) gun + silencer, compared to a new gun?



Add a silencer now and then a CF+TX2 combo if pigs keep escaping!

A good bullet with a good (70% or better) meplat that'll drill a .45 hole right through an animal is the key. That big hole on both sides lets loads of hydraulic fluids drain fast! A HP that stays inside an animal reiles on tissue destruction alone, not loss in blod pressure, to kill the animal.

Added power results in only minor speed and speed is what flattens the trajectory. So an added 100ftlbs is what?

350 grain slug BC .25 V0 780fps = 473ftlbs

350 grain slug BC .25 V0 850fps = 562ftlbs

Difference in trajectory (sighted in at 80yds):

0 yards 780fps 850fps

50 +4" + 3.3"

75 +1" +1"

85 -1.2" -1"

95 -4" -3.4"

105 -7½" -6.3"

115 -12" -10"



Nothing revolutionary there!

And adding bullet weight, slightly better BC and tweaking the speed to equal @650ftlbs would change very little in the ballistic curve. Still rainbow.

Thats the problem with PCP's: You need to add weight to add power, speed will pretty much stay the same. so no free lunch just with added energy.

As in most dragraces: run what you brung and hope you brought enough ;-)

Remember that a broadhead arrow will deliver no more than 3-8ftlbs to an animal in actual dissipated energy, but man oh man that wound channel and the blod it will drain out both sides.

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Thank you sir great info. I was considering adding the new bottle and valve. Not sure if i really need it now. I am shooting the Neilsen Boattail 350g. At 75 yards i can get inside a 2 in circle. Also that is the distance i will be shooting game. I was shooting the Neilsen 370g but since the stop making it I started with the 350 Boattail. I need to pull out the crono and see what the speed is of the new 350g. I am pretty sure i have the Texan turned all the way up, its been a while since i had to change anything 
 
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Don’t know what you decided to go with but the Texan LSS cf did the trick for me, 140yds last weekend, dropped an 8pt in its tracks with the 350boattails 
 
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