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Ten Dimes, HW-98, You be the judge.

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    Well good morning Viet-Nam!!!

    I took this pic this morning while walking the miracle puppy.

    This HW98 came from AoA a couple of weeks ago.  I did a thread about it and showed some targets.  The thread went off track and I promised to start another.  As it turns out I needed to shoot a Ten Dimes Challenge with it this morning so; "two birds one stone".

    This rifle has had maybe 200 pellets through it.  I have done nothing to it other than the basic things you should do to any new springer.  Namely, clean the barrel good with JB bore cleaner and lightly lubricate it, check all the screws after a few shots and lok-tite them.  That's it really.  I need to lube the hinge points and adjust the trigger but have not done that yet.  The pellets I am using are the only ones I have ever shot in the rifle.  I wish I could get some other's in .20 cal but that's going to be unlikely for the near term.  I have not measured, weighed or sorted the first pellet.  They are as they came from the tin except that I dressed the skirts and used the tool to seat them before each shot.

    I think if I could get a pellet it likes better it would shoot tighter groups.  I am confident that shooting another tin of pellets will improve the shot cycle and group size.

    I think I missed the challenge by one shot.  You be the judge.  NOTE: You can make any image full size by right clicking it and selecting "open image in new tab".

     

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    Nice work, what’s the ten dimes thing, and what’s the distance?

    Looks more like Minnesota than Vietnam.

    mike

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    Flintsack

    Nice work, what’s the ten dimes thing, and what’s the distance?

    Looks more like Minnesota than Vietnam.

    mike

    The sunrise is Virginia on the Piankitank River.  The quote is just a joke from a Robin Williams movie.  Old soldiers get it.

    Ten Dimes Challenge is 25 yards and must be outdoors.  The TDC is just a target I drew up years and years ago when I frequented GTA.  I think it is probably still in their archived site.  That target looked like this:

    https://www.oldspooks.com/agstuff/Ten-dimes-challenge.pdf

    Then I came here and was incarnated as "Oldspook" and started this thread:

    https://www.airgunnation.com/topic/ten-dimes-challenge-changed/

    Lots of people have shot it but every spring I beat that dead horse because it reminds us all of just how hard it is to keep 30 shots under a dime at 25 yards outdoors.  It's fun to shoot and I don't consider any of my rifles to be shooting "well" until it has passed the challenge.

     

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    Nice shooting!

    Mitch

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    I picked up an WH98 back in December from AOA.   Went in to just look around but after shooting various spring guns came home with the HW98 in 22 caliber.

    It is very accurate and has become one of my favorites.    Downloaded your target and will give it a try this weekend.

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    Cornpone, did you shoot the "dimes" challenge off hand? 

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    Pea-shooter

    Cornpone, did you shoot the "dimes" challenge off hand? 

    Ho! ho!  oh, not hardly.  Anyone who can do that needs to be out there making a name for himself at the National Matches.

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    I will give it a try. I’m a little bit of an old fart myself, I remember the saying and I remember the movie. After all, there’s nothing like the smell of napalm in the morning.

    mike

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    If I carefully trace a dime, will my targets be too big?

    in other words are they the exact dimensions of the dime? 
     

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    Def remember the smell of napalm… was 3 at the time :)

    Thanks for the link to the dime target (in another thread) @cornpone. Now I need to find 25yrds to take on the challenge. (That's probably a bigger challenge than the dime-target challenge where I live, lol.) Looks like fun though.

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    It was around 2018 or 2017 I had a couple of goes at your challenge. Very frustrating as I recall. Here are two pic’s I resurrected. The target by it self was my first attempt (by the way the rifle is a titan not a trail. I don’t know why I kept calling it a trail ). The other one is with the same rifle but I recall I did some work on the trigger and I used different pellets. As you can see the one with the rifle in it is much better. I remember I was very happy with that target and super happy I had finished it without stuffing it up. I’m not sure if the distance was 20 or 25 metres in this photo, probably 20 metres looking at the improved groups. 
    I really enjoyed my titans, I traded this rifle as it killed more scopes then it was worth. My 22 cal titan won me third prize in the 100 yard golf ball challenge, hit it on the second shot. 
    I remember having a go with my 22cal LGV Challenger but at that time I was still experimenting with different pellets and the trigger was horrible. Anyway the challenge was very frustrating but fun. I might have a go shooting my Hw50S.

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    Flintsack

    If I carefully trace a dime, will my targets be too big?

    in other words are they the exact dimensions of the dime? 
     

    mike

    Ah yes the smell of NAPALM in the morning.  =)

    Well the circles on the target are 17.9 mm, or as close to that as Open Office will make them in a PDF.  If you draw them with a dime they will be a couple mm too big but you can just do it anyway and say the pellet has to be half or more across the line.  That would work just fine, I'd think.  It's not really that big of a deal.  The challenge obviously favors the larger calibers so to make it fair as a competition one would have to make a target for each caliber.  Too much trouble for too little reward, me thinks.

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    Def remember the smell of napalm… was 3 at the time :)

    Thanks for the link to the dime target (in another thread) @cornpone. Now I need to find 25yrds to take on the challenge. (That's probably a bigger challenge than the dime-target challenge where I live, lol.) Looks like fun though.

    I am sorry to hear that. It probably wasn't very funny at the time.  Well you know if you can find 25 yards just shoot it and report your range.  Nobody is keeping score.  =)

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    It was around 2018 or 2017 I had a couple of goes at your challenge. Very frustrating as I recall. Here are two pic’s I resurrected. The target by it self was my first attempt (by the way the rifle is a titan not a trail. I don’t know why I kept calling it a trail ). The other one is with the same rifle but I recall I did some work on the trigger and I used different pellets. As you can see the one with the rifle in it is much better. I remember I was very happy with that target and super happy I had finished it without stuffing it up. I’m not sure if the distance was 20 or 25 metres in this photo, probably 20 metres looking at the improved groups. 
    I really enjoyed my titans, I traded this rifle as it killed more scopes then it was worth. My 22 cal titan won me third prize in the 100 yard golf ball challenge, hit it on the second shot. 
    I remember having a go with my 22cal LGV Challenger but at that time I was still experimenting with different pellets and the trigger was horrible. Anyway the challenge was very frustrating but fun. I might have a go shooting my Hw50S.

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    I remember you working on it.  It is frustrating.  Those last three groups are just like someone scratching a chalk board. =)

      I remember mcoulter just drilled it like it was too easy.  That Model 34 of his rocks.

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    Yep that 34 did the trick, but I suppose we have to give some credit to the person pulling the trigger. I also remember that one eyed bloke pulling off some amazing groups.

    Gary

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    I think I’ll draw the circle around the dime, and then I’ll use a 17 caliber as my penalty for being slightly over. I’ll make it as tight as I can.

    The line about the napalm was from a movie also,  I was old enough to remember Vietnam on the news, I was definitely not there.

    For those who were, thank you very much for your service. It’s never too late to say thank you.

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    Def remember the smell of napalm… was 3 at the time :)

    Thanks for the link to the dime target (in another thread) @cornpone. Now I need to find 25yrds to take on the challenge. (That's probably a bigger challenge than the dime-target challenge where I live, lol.) Looks like fun though.

    I am sorry to hear that. It probably wasn't very funny at the time.  Well you know if you can find 25 yards just shoot it and report your range.  Nobody is keeping score.  =)

    For sure… with only 10yds, I tend to make up the difference with variables (i.e. off-hand or standing/w shooting sticks, push-ups before each group, LOL). I just know my hw77 shoots better than me at that range, so challenge is on me. 

    (Btw, no need to apologize as def not your fault or anyone specific. Appreciate it though. Just the never ending cycle of man and his politics :) )

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    Extremely interesting target and challenge. I really like the fact that you’re trying to hit inside a circle. It matches really well with both Benchrest , and field target. I thought this would be a breeze…But you’ll notice I didn’t say that before hand, LOL.

    it was a challenge and I will be back with better scores. The top target a shot with my air arms pro elite 177. The bottom target with my FWB 124 sport.

    I know I can do way better with both. I didn’t have either of them cited in correctly when I started, so I had a rough start with both. The circles I drew for the FWB were much smaller. But that was on purpose, it’s a more accurate rifle. Unfortunately it was hitting a bit right….Not sure who to blame for that….

    I will be using this format again as a nice exercise for my shooting. Just about anyone can find 25 yards somewhere.

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    I will be using this format again as a nice exercise for my shooting. Just about anyone can find 25 yards somewhere.

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    Nice rifles and some pretty tight groups there.  Keep those targets coming.  It is pretty hard to "guesstimate" the hold off at 25 yards out doors but that's part of the problem.  Doesn't take much to move a pellet a half of a dime … =)

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    I had another look at your post.  That is an exceptional target.  You don't see many that good.   Six out of ten of the groups are one "ragged" hole.  That's one of those low end spring rifles, right?  Looks like you got it to shoot just fine! You did the rifle justice and the rifle did yoemans service.

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