Taipan veteran .22 came in today WOW -- worth the wait
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Uh... Have you had a Ronin on your Vetetan ?? If not how can you possibly comment ? It was not unbalanced in the least.
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What dimension seems to make the most difference in quieting-down an air rifle:
length of moderator,
width of moderator,
or simply internal volume of moderator (regardless of external dimensions)?
length of moderator,
width of moderator,
or simply internal volume of moderator (regardless of external dimensions)?
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FWIW I'm using a DonnyFL Tatsu on my .25 Vereran Std. I measured the DB level of the stock mod using an iPhone app called DecibelMeter at 90-92. With the Tatsu, it was 82-84. It would probably be quieter at a lower power setting. Readings were made pushing a 25.4 @ -950fps.
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I do have a Ronin on my Veteran. Read my post again. I said it makes it LOOK unbalanced, not that it IS unbalanced. The Ronin is a BIG moderator.
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HI I brought up the ronn is on my gun it makes it quiet however I want to mod the internals to quiet it down as , I am having problems with my hands and fingers so i want to drop the weight of the gun ,
I feel it does the job well and it looks cool , but reality is I want it lighter cause of medical reasons , not the coolness factor lol
I feel it does the job well and it looks cool , but reality is I want it lighter cause of medical reasons , not the coolness factor lol
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I use and recommend the Donny tatsu in .22 for you
I hope to hear about your cast pellets/slugs/bullets not matter what airgun. Did you get you molds back from N.O.E.?
I'm looking to purchase a N.O.E. mold in .22 for this taipan and start casting so more reviews, so few, the better no matter the airgun.
I just want to know its not me and my beginner casts that could cause bad accuracy. I plan for under 50 yard stuff but if I were to go further I would use swaged style of ammo.
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I read someone said a guy who made moderators thought they needed to be at least 1.5'' wide and at least 5'' long for good effect. If I ever get a standard Taipan in .22 I would think a sumo in .22 would work great.
I bought a Ronin .25 a long time ago and then added a .22 Tatsu with the sole intention of putting it on a taipan shorty .22 to keep everything...short I finally got my shorty and initially shot it stock, louder than I thought it would be but very backyard friendly. I'm used to a Prod going around 635fps with JSB 18's so this increase in power has to sound louder. The tatsu helped and the ronin again helped but both were small increments of improvement. It is hard for me to tell the improvements cause mine pings loud. It must be the hammer strike and with my head and ear right there I see why I hear that over anything else. I would need to have someone else fire it with the different moderators to give you a more accurate opinion of sound. I could feel the ronin out there more but the taipan has so much weight on the backend it's not off balanced. I would say the sumo but you mention keeping it stock and so this is why I say the tatsu as it is his shortest moderator (less likely to feel it) so that is what I recommend. Also I realized after several huge fliers that my tatsu got loose and was clipping so I reccomment to anyone to put some thick grease on the threads, I used moly, then screw moderator back on. No problems since but I do check it more often now.
I recommend getting the clip holders for your taipan. I was cheap and only bought one. My mistake as I have to pocket the used mag before I grab the one in the holder. It would seem easier to stick the used mag in an empty holder then grab the new mag from the holder next to it, plus I would get the single shot tray holder to, so everything is with the gun. The more you order the price gets better so this is where I made my mistake.
I also recommend Donny's HST adjuster. I might not need it but love the idea of tool less adjustability. I say not need it as I tend to dial everything in then not touch it, my scope included other than the zoom. But, having the adjuster is great and if I owned a tiny chrono, like barrel mounted, I bet I would change it all the time. I used the same weed whacker piece that fit in the set screw hole for the hole on the adjuster and used some RTV silicone so I have a flat side and a point to reference my 12,3,6 and 9 'o' clock positions and their power.
Hope you see this reply as I really want to hear about your casting good or bad, specifically with N.O.E. molds.
I will be purchasing the "hunter" mold not out yet in .22 for my shorty, the smaller of the two JSB pellet type molds. I would like to keep my speed up and realize for heavier pellets I should have purchased the standard Veteran. I get casting for .22 might not be worth the time or expense but I also bought a 45-70 mold about 10 years ago so I'm at the point where I have too much ''stuff'' and if I don't use it I should loose it. Funny cause using the old mold requires me to purchase/acquire more "stuff".
I hope to hear about your cast pellets/slugs/bullets not matter what airgun. Did you get you molds back from N.O.E.?
I'm looking to purchase a N.O.E. mold in .22 for this taipan and start casting so more reviews, so few, the better no matter the airgun.
I just want to know its not me and my beginner casts that could cause bad accuracy. I plan for under 50 yard stuff but if I were to go further I would use swaged style of ammo.
Back to moderator
I read someone said a guy who made moderators thought they needed to be at least 1.5'' wide and at least 5'' long for good effect. If I ever get a standard Taipan in .22 I would think a sumo in .22 would work great.
I bought a Ronin .25 a long time ago and then added a .22 Tatsu with the sole intention of putting it on a taipan shorty .22 to keep everything...short I finally got my shorty and initially shot it stock, louder than I thought it would be but very backyard friendly. I'm used to a Prod going around 635fps with JSB 18's so this increase in power has to sound louder. The tatsu helped and the ronin again helped but both were small increments of improvement. It is hard for me to tell the improvements cause mine pings loud. It must be the hammer strike and with my head and ear right there I see why I hear that over anything else. I would need to have someone else fire it with the different moderators to give you a more accurate opinion of sound. I could feel the ronin out there more but the taipan has so much weight on the backend it's not off balanced. I would say the sumo but you mention keeping it stock and so this is why I say the tatsu as it is his shortest moderator (less likely to feel it) so that is what I recommend. Also I realized after several huge fliers that my tatsu got loose and was clipping so I reccomment to anyone to put some thick grease on the threads, I used moly, then screw moderator back on. No problems since but I do check it more often now.
I recommend getting the clip holders for your taipan. I was cheap and only bought one. My mistake as I have to pocket the used mag before I grab the one in the holder. It would seem easier to stick the used mag in an empty holder then grab the new mag from the holder next to it, plus I would get the single shot tray holder to, so everything is with the gun. The more you order the price gets better so this is where I made my mistake.
I also recommend Donny's HST adjuster. I might not need it but love the idea of tool less adjustability. I say not need it as I tend to dial everything in then not touch it, my scope included other than the zoom. But, having the adjuster is great and if I owned a tiny chrono, like barrel mounted, I bet I would change it all the time. I used the same weed whacker piece that fit in the set screw hole for the hole on the adjuster and used some RTV silicone so I have a flat side and a point to reference my 12,3,6 and 9 'o' clock positions and their power.
Hope you see this reply as I really want to hear about your casting good or bad, specifically with N.O.E. molds.
I will be purchasing the "hunter" mold not out yet in .22 for my shorty, the smaller of the two JSB pellet type molds. I would like to keep my speed up and realize for heavier pellets I should have purchased the standard Veteran. I get casting for .22 might not be worth the time or expense but I also bought a 45-70 mold about 10 years ago so I'm at the point where I have too much ''stuff'' and if I don't use it I should loose it. Funny cause using the old mold requires me to purchase/acquire more "stuff".
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I had a chance to shoot gun today at my range I set a target out at 90 yards . it was 90 degrees with a 5 to 6mph with gust to 8 mph 1/2 wind value . very humid ., Today I shot pellets and I shot some of my slugs , I can say slugs look promising with this gun , better then pellets ,
OK PICTURE 1 is with Brains portable Chronograph what a neat unit .I made a adapter to fit on Donnyfl Ronin , Its accually a plumbing fitting some clamps and a couple pvc fittings. OK ready to go off to range. yay
This Picture is my target it was set out at 90 yards I took 80 shots per target , I was adjusting speeds during groups , I found today , the Jsb pellets had a target group at 935 fps , then 930 or 920 , When I shot the ed gun pellets they shot much better then the JSB even though they come out of same building they shot great at 890 to 940 , I didn't try slower or faster yet , I can say I will adjust regulator but I am shooting very good groups with slugs over 100 yards and some slugs are over 42 grains I will raise reg and test them to 55 grains i can load all but my 55 grains in the magazines , this is only gun i saw in any caliber who finally made a magazine usable , now to see what the limits of power are , lol OK I did a shot string for someone who asked well if gun is 29fpe i got 61 shots at 33fpe i am getting 48 shots and and the string below shows at 36 fpe you get 45 good shots . ALL SHOTS ON TARGET ARE FROM BURRIS XTR 1.5 TO 8 SHOOTING AT 4X , SO 400 PELLETS ON THIS TARGET
Here is a shot string for those who asked I set gun about 940fps and shot 18.25 grains . and yet these are all 18.25 grains sorted and washed .these are my chrono pellets so about 36fpe
1 934,9
2 937,3
3 936,1
4 941,1
5 937,3
6 939,8
7 942,3
8 942,3
9 941,1
10 938,6
11 938,6
12 934,9
13 934,9
14 937,3
15 941,1
16 938,6
17 939,8
18 943,6
19 944,8
20 941,1
21 948,6
22 942,3
23 944,8
24 944,8
25 942,3
26 946,1
27 943,6
28 944,8
29 943,6
30 943,6
31 944,8
32 944,8
33 941,1
34 942,3 36fpe
35 944,8
36 941,1
37 942,3
38 938,6
39 937,3
40 909,7
41 901,6
42 898,1
43 894,7
44 888,0
45 883,6
iF ANYONE WANTS I CAN POST SOME SLUG DATA ,AS NOW I AM READY TO TEST ALL MY SLUGS IN THIS GUN I CAN SAY i DID SHOOT LIKE 4 TYPES OF SLUG AND ALL FLEW WELL STRAIGHT AS AN ARROW i SHOT ALSO AT A ROCK TARGET AT 140M AND i WAS GETTING HITS EVERY SHOT ONCE i DOPED FOR DIFFERENT SLUGS , i AM GOING TO FIRST TEST SLUGS AT THE 20 TO 40FPE RANGE THEN I WILL CRANK THE REG AND SEE IF i CAN GET 50FPE OR SO TO TEST SOME VERY GOOD SLUGS . LETS STRETCH ITS LEGS
OK PICTURE 1 is with Brains portable Chronograph what a neat unit .I made a adapter to fit on Donnyfl Ronin , Its accually a plumbing fitting some clamps and a couple pvc fittings. OK ready to go off to range. yay
This Picture is my target it was set out at 90 yards I took 80 shots per target , I was adjusting speeds during groups , I found today , the Jsb pellets had a target group at 935 fps , then 930 or 920 , When I shot the ed gun pellets they shot much better then the JSB even though they come out of same building they shot great at 890 to 940 , I didn't try slower or faster yet , I can say I will adjust regulator but I am shooting very good groups with slugs over 100 yards and some slugs are over 42 grains I will raise reg and test them to 55 grains i can load all but my 55 grains in the magazines , this is only gun i saw in any caliber who finally made a magazine usable , now to see what the limits of power are , lol OK I did a shot string for someone who asked well if gun is 29fpe i got 61 shots at 33fpe i am getting 48 shots and and the string below shows at 36 fpe you get 45 good shots . ALL SHOTS ON TARGET ARE FROM BURRIS XTR 1.5 TO 8 SHOOTING AT 4X , SO 400 PELLETS ON THIS TARGET
Here is a shot string for those who asked I set gun about 940fps and shot 18.25 grains . and yet these are all 18.25 grains sorted and washed .these are my chrono pellets so about 36fpe
1 934,9
2 937,3
3 936,1
4 941,1
5 937,3
6 939,8
7 942,3
8 942,3
9 941,1
10 938,6
11 938,6
12 934,9
13 934,9
14 937,3
15 941,1
16 938,6
17 939,8
18 943,6
19 944,8
20 941,1
21 948,6
22 942,3
23 944,8
24 944,8
25 942,3
26 946,1
27 943,6
28 944,8
29 943,6
30 943,6
31 944,8
32 944,8
33 941,1
34 942,3 36fpe
35 944,8
36 941,1
37 942,3
38 938,6
39 937,3
40 909,7
41 901,6
42 898,1
43 894,7
44 888,0
45 883,6
iF ANYONE WANTS I CAN POST SOME SLUG DATA ,AS NOW I AM READY TO TEST ALL MY SLUGS IN THIS GUN I CAN SAY i DID SHOOT LIKE 4 TYPES OF SLUG AND ALL FLEW WELL STRAIGHT AS AN ARROW i SHOT ALSO AT A ROCK TARGET AT 140M AND i WAS GETTING HITS EVERY SHOT ONCE i DOPED FOR DIFFERENT SLUGS , i AM GOING TO FIRST TEST SLUGS AT THE 20 TO 40FPE RANGE THEN I WILL CRANK THE REG AND SEE IF i CAN GET 50FPE OR SO TO TEST SOME VERY GOOD SLUGS . LETS STRETCH ITS LEGS
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Hey did you got any data of the slugs already?? I have a taipan veteran long in my 
cart waiting. I would like to know how they shoot the slugs. Thanks..
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Hey The Taipan has serious potental , I only shot my slugs 1 time now , I shot 3 different ones and they all shoot straight and all go in mags fine I can adj hst up to 36fpe , so i cant shoot all my slugs i will adj reg and see just what it can do and if need be i may make a bigger plenum when I shoot the heavy slugs , but I had no problem shooting past 150 yards i did not save any targets if u like I can or I can film in slow motion the flight to analyze which i didnt because i can accually see my slugs in flight because i use very good glass in my scopes . Usually I break out camera when I cant hit target and see if somethings wrong or it is me LOL
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I don't make anything lol, i want to buy the veteran and give it a try with Nielsen 21 gr. Slugs
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