SWFA SS - Mil-Quad or MOA-Quad

I have 2 Mil-Quad 20x's. I hate buying an optic without looking thru it first but I could not find an SWFA prior to buying. I bought both with the Mil-Quad .... More hold overs and reticle sub tensions are much more defined. The scopes fit me for what I wanted and need out West in the wide open. I failed to note that both of these SWFA 20's are on powder burners used for extreme ranges.
 
The answer, I think, depends on which is more intuitive to you. Mils are 1/1000 of a radian, while minutes are 1/60th of a degree. Which is easier for you? If you want to use the marks to estimate range, and you are comfortable with the metric system, then I'd say the Mil-quad would be better. Just start thinking of your target distances in meters, not yards. 

In looking at the pictures of the two, my own impression is that the MOA quad is a bit too busy. That is, the spacing of the fine lines being only 1/2 MOA is a bit too closely spaced. I have the SS16x with standard mildots and would rather have the half marks on it. 

I will say (though these are two different brands and price points) the 10X 1/2 mildot Hawke is a quite a bit brighter than the 16X SS. I also think that the Hawke 1/2 mildot reticle would be a bit nicer to use as the half marks are little butterflies.

For the most part, I do not find that the additional magnification of the 16 X helps too much over the 10X with these two scopes. 

I will say that the SS 20X is quite a bit dimmer than the 16X, and has a smaller exit pupil. These factors make it a bit harder to use. 


There is one other thing that I found with the two SWFA SS scopes that I have. If you have droop and your reticle is not close to optically centered when sighted in, the focusing will change the reticle position relative to the target image. This became apparent when my previous trajectory cheat cards with the Hawke scope, did not correspond to what that same rifle and pellets did with the SS scopes. It seemed like I had a much flatter trajectory than possible. Once I made new cheat cards, all was well. 
 
I personally owned the SWFA SS fixed scopes from the 6 up to the 20power. To me the 10 Is the best overall . Unless you truly need extra magnification.
I haven't owned a MOAquad but have used one and I kinda like the dot in the center. But I would buy a milquad again . It's just a perfect crosshair for Airguns. You don't realize it till you have owned one but it's amazing how many times you look right thru the little diamonds to aim . It's a really cool feature
 
"Dairyboy"I just got a SWFA SS 10x42 Mil-quad on my Mutant Standard and I must say absolutely love it! Ordered with sunshade and caps



Not sure how far your ranges usually go but use mine from 20-100 with no problems. I love the look of the Mil-quad reticle as well. Looking to probably buy another for my .30 Bwalton BT65.
Looks good on there. I'm leaning towards the 12X, but just not sure why it would weigh so much more then the 10x and 16x. My
Vortex Diamond back at 12x seems like it has enough magnification, but not sure if 10x will be enough with my eyes.
 
"LDM"How do you guys like the rear focus of the SWFA scopes? I really don't like scopes that focus from the front, and prefer side wheel, but rear seams like it would work fine. I'm thinking about the 12x42 for a .22 wildcat.


I love the scope. I got the 16x as my other 2 mildot scopes are 4x16 and I leave them both on 16. Sighted in (Mutant) at 25 yds on the dot above the "+" and I can aim all the way out to 160 yds without clicking.
The rear focus is smooth and in a good spot for adjusting, but it is hard to find by "feel" when I first pick it up. With front it's on the end and easy to find. On side it is the only thing there. With rear it is between the eye piece and the turret and without looking at it i find myself having to lift my head off the gun, or moving my hand back and forth till I get it. Putting the nylon piece on a Erik has said should eliminate that issue.