I had the pleasure of purchasing this awesome edgun with this awesome stock. I want to know from you guys who specialize in wood work on how I can get the charcoal coloring to be black instead? What are my options?
Stock painting/darkening HELP
- Thread starter Redick
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You would have to strip the top coat finish off then use a wood dye like these www.kedadyeinc.com/ordering-information/ , which I have used a couple of times on stock projects with great results.
You would have to spot dye the black and if you wanted to darken the red do the same.
Here is a Gray Pepper laminate stock I refinished into a black and green.
Before top coat finish
After top coat finish
Note I was not after a laminate looking stock. The black was used in the stippled areas the cheek riser and feathered on some edges.
Stock looking like this before .
You would have to spot dye the black and if you wanted to darken the red do the same.
Here is a Gray Pepper laminate stock I refinished into a black and green.
Before top coat finish
After top coat finish
Note I was not after a laminate looking stock. The black was used in the stippled areas the cheek riser and feathered on some edges.
Stock looking like this before .
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Hi! I am a cabinet/furniture/woodworker who thinks changing the color of natural wood is a sacrilege... it would not be an easy thing to change the stripes on this stock, as any dye would bleed into the lighter wood. I would say to live with it. It is beautiful!
BTW, you will decrease the value of the rifle if you paint it.
BTW, you will decrease the value of the rifle if you paint it.
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But it is already not the natural color. The beauty of dye is it lets the natural wood grain come through. The key to keeping the dye from bleeding is to seal with a spray top coat, vs brushing.
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You are saying that the dye/stain he uses on the black areas will not bleed into the red areas along the grain if he uses a spray top coat over the stain after it is applied?
... or could you correct my understanding of what you suggested please? ..
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I think whatever you use to darken the charcoal part of the stock will effect the reed parts to, so you may not like it.
I found MINWAX trueblack to be the most black stain available for average Joe (me including) get little can and do sample inside the stock and see if you like it.
https://www.minwax.com/wood-products/stains-color-guide/
Buddy of mine is the most respected wood finisher on high end houses in east coast so I can have access to all kinds of finishes,colors ,etc but I still find MINWAX stuff to be most user friendly , specially if you got no experience. Hope that help.
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I found MINWAX trueblack to be the most black stain available for average Joe (me including) get little can and do sample inside the stock and see if you like it.
https://www.minwax.com/wood-products/stains-color-guide/
Buddy of mine is the most respected wood finisher on high end houses in east coast so I can have access to all kinds of finishes,colors ,etc but I still find MINWAX stuff to be most user friendly , specially if you got no experience. Hope that help.
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I did it,the black thing,big mistake...what a sun burned Zebra,LOL,just kidding you...I finished a lot of stocks.First off you need to think what you are really after,you want black against the red,your stock properly was dyed black to begin with,if it was black it would look funny because the red is not solid red,I think you would have to darken both colors.....or maybe you want to darken the whole stock?
You must what it to look like a Daystate Redwolf?.....You can do it,it will take a number of steps,but a problem is that a lot of times because of the grain of the wood some parts will take the dye more readily than other parts.
You can do it,you must go step by step,you need to read up on it and practice until you are happy with your results.
You must what it to look like a Daystate Redwolf?.....You can do it,it will take a number of steps,but a problem is that a lot of times because of the grain of the wood some parts will take the dye more readily than other parts.
You can do it,you must go step by step,you need to read up on it and practice until you are happy with your results.
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On the green Mossberg stock I used and artist brush and painted the stippled with black dye. I got clean lines taking my time. At that point I could have sealed the dye with a spray urethane. I wanted a smokey blended look and did not seal it and used finish oil on it and the solvents in the oil bleed the black dye into the green in a blended way. You also have to consider he also has a laminated stock so there is a glue bond layer between each color and the grain is "broken". If I had his stock and was not happy with it that how I would change the colors for deeper colors. Others may have other methods.
Seach youtube there are lots of videos on using wood dyes and technics.
Seach youtube there are lots of videos on using wood dyes and technics.
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I believe they stain the the wood before they laminate it, that's how I was taught. If you strip the finish the wood will still be red and gray. you will have to stain the gray to black, be very careful as the black will bleed into the red. When completed seal with a water base polyurathane (sp?). If you use and oil based finish you run the risk the oil to resuspend the stain and have schmirring into the red. If it was my gun I'd learn to live with it. It would be so easy to botch the job.
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I would strip and we apply stain rather than attempt to darken existing stain. Apply pre-stain solution to treat the wood as well. Make sure to apply a polymerizer after too.
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I’ve been thinking of doing the same thing, only mines blue and I want the blue and grey and I want deeper blue.
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I agree with john8 you could only stain gray with small brush and be careful not to use to much stain or run over the red.
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Most if not all laminates are stained before glued together and most stocks got only clear coat on it.
By sanding you will never get off factory colors.
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