Steyr Hunting 5 Automatic vs FX Crown

I too am considering a Steyr Hunting 5 Automatic. The only thing holding me back is the lack of information on adjustability of the Steyr. A huge plus of the Crown is that it looks super easy to adjust the power with. I emailed Richard Krale of Krale asking about the feasibility of adjusting the regulator depending on my desired uses. He replied that there is a special tool required to read the regulator pressure but that the tool could be ordered. He is worried about reliability if the regulator is adjusted and is going to email Steyr for their opinion. Adjusting hammer spring tension looks pretty easy on the Steyr at least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yAJbFwAYUY
I asked about shot count for the Scout version. Richard said to expect 30 shots per fill. I'm sure the Crown with its large bottle dwarfs this shot count. Then again, for hunting small game, how many shots do you need?

The small size of the Hunting 5 would definitely tip the balances in favor of the Steyr in my opinion without considering the cool factor of semiautomatic.

steyr for sure, crown is more of a ass>bench>target gun.

that said, they steyr is going to be loud, and its not threaded for a silencer. 

I ask two Steyr dealers if you could adjust the Auto-5. Both told me that would void warranty and might cause cycling problems. I bet a lot of potential customers are contacting them about the same thing. It is just slightly underpowered for those of us who like 18 gr in the 900+ range. I would not be surprised if they come up with something in the 35 ft pound range. I think they would sell like hotcakes. I have almost clicked buy several times but the lower power than I am used to keeps me from following through. As soon as they get them up to 960 with 16 grains & 900 plus with 18 grn. I will buy one.

"mmahoney"I too am considering a Steyr Hunting 5 Automatic. The only thing holding me back is the lack of information on adjustability of the Steyr. A huge plus of the Crown is that it looks super easy to adjust the power with. I emailed Richard Krale of Krale asking about the feasibility of adjusting the regulator depending on my desired uses. He replied that there is a special tool required to read the regulator pressure but that the tool could be ordered. He is worried about reliability if the regulator is adjusted and is going to email Steyr for their opinion. Adjusting hammer spring tension looks pretty easy on the Steyr at least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yAJbFwAYUY
I asked about shot count for the Scout version. Richard said to expect 30 shots per fill. I'm sure the Crown with its large bottle dwarfs this shot count. Then again, for hunting small game, how many shots do you need?
The small size of the Hunting 5 would definitely tip the balances in favor of the Steyr in my opinion without considering the cool factor of semiautomatic.

​That video is for the regular Hunting 5, not the Auto 5. You can probably adjust the auto 5 the same way, but may cause cycling issues. 

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Go with the Steyr imho.

I'm getting 70 shots at 820 fps with JSB 13.43 gr (.177) with my H5A Scout.

Go with the Steyr imho. I'm getting 70 shots at 820 fps with JSB 13.43 gr (.177) with my H5A Scout.

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thats shorter one right?



how accurate is it?

whats the air volume? 

longest one will give you 100 shots minimum i think in 177 cal

I have a Crown and Steyr, both in .22. My Steyr is not the Hunting 5, but the Challenge Hunting, a single shot, target rifle, which has a totally different trigger, and no safety. Although the Steyr you are considering has no threads for a suppressor, the Steyr adapter fits very neatly, held in place with a grub screw, I have one on my Steyr, and it works great. Probably better than threading, as any external machining can mess with the bore dimensions. Either rifle will serve your hunting needs very well. I would not hesitate to take my Crown in the woods squirrel hunting, but, I would prefer the Steyr for two reasons: I think the trigger is better, and the simple barrel without attachments is a more robust design. My Crown is working great, but, if I were in the woods and dinged it a little against a tree, I might wonder where the next shot is going. Between the barrel sleeve, liner, shroud, end cap, air stripper, and suppressor, there are a lot of places for accuracy to take a hit. I'm not a fan of the magazine and semi-auto function of the Steyr, just because I like simple stuff. But, my confidence in Steyr would suggest that the design works. 

I don't own a crown, but my Steyr hunting 5 auto scout, is shooting the JSB16 gr. at 870fps for 60 shots. Extremely accurate, and the action cycles flawlessly. Trigger is match grade, and fully adjustable.

It is a little loud, but like mentioned above, you can get a moderator adapter that is held on via a set screw. I don't use, or need a moderator

It's an amazing semi auto rifle.

I too have a Steyr Hunting 5 Rifle and ran it across a chrono recently....using 21.14 grain H&N Barracuda, 5.52 head diameter:

935.6 - 938.5 - 939.0 - 945.3 - 934.8 - 930.2 - 935.4 - 938.9 - 941.8 - 938.4 - Avg = 937.8

941.0 - 939.3 - 942.6 - 942.6 - 946.6 - 936.4 - 937.7 - 940.8 - 935.4 - 939.6 - Avg = 939.0

This using the standard regulator with no hammer spring adjustment (it doesn't seem to need any). You can buy an extra regulator for it also, I bought a 12 FP regulator to shoot rats for instance. It's a very easy swap. 

Another nice thing about the rifle is that the air tube can be removed while under pressure with a slight hiss upon replacing....bummer is that you need to remove the stock to get the air tube out. 

I have heard of certain ones having a lower 5th shot, mine does not appear to have that malady, at least not yet. The trigger is wonderful.

There is a threaded adapter that attaches to the shroud for an LDC to connect. This makes it a very quiet rifle indeed. It is slightly heavy with a full-size 50mm scope and picatinny adapter rail on top.

IMO, it very well built. Much of what I have learned came from this site. Just do a search.

mike

Old post, but still valid.

Steyr design works very well. Not a power house but accurate. I like the 5 shot mag design. Because mine will be used for field use I chosed the scout model, means less shots between fills but makes for a more manageable rifle for hunting. And then there is the fun factor of this rifle!! Both are great rifles (Steyr/Crown) but I lean heavily towards the Steyr if main purpose is for hunting. My opinion is just that "mine". In saying all of this it will not take the place of my edguns but will have a place right along side them!

Cheers

Where would one look to purchase a new Steyr Hunting 5 auto? I've scoured the internet and haven't found one anywhere.

If it were a choice between the Steyr and a Crown, I'd probably go with the Steyr (and yes, I'm an FX fanboy). Reason is the Crown's floating barrel. It's long for carrying and can get knocked out of alignment if you aren't careful.

I know you don't like bullpups, but, I didn't like bullpups either till I bought an Impact. It's short, easy to carry with a single point sling, and the barrel is supported. Light too.

If you can find someone local who will let you shoot one and carry it for a while, you might like that particular bullpup. I really like mine now. When I first picked one up, I hated it. Now, I love it.

Good luck on your choice, can't go wrong with any of your choices.

CWhitmarsh….

You can find them for sale at times on airgun forums of course, but this place has them in stock. They are in Europe though so shipping will be more.

https://www.krale.shop/en/

Another nice thing about the rifle is that the air tube can be removed while under pressure with a slight hiss upon replacing....bummer is that you need to remove the stock to get the air tube out. 

I have heard of certain ones having a lower 5th shot, mine does not appear to have that malady, at least not yet. The trigger is wonderful.


mike

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What ? I had a Steyr Automatic a few months and i had to remove the air tube for filling because it had no quickfill port but you dont have to remove the stock.

(the quickfillport was optional available)

you have to remove the stock to access the hammer spring adjuster.

I'd like to make a few clarifications here.

My Steyr Hunting 5 auto scout, is about a year old. I have the quick fill adapter so that I don't need to remove the air tube to fill.

However, when I do want to remove the tube, the stock must be removed first, because it raps around the tube at the front end.

Also I was told by Steyr NOT to make HS adjustments, because it can negatively affect the semiauto operation.

Have fun, Scott

i could adjust mine .177 with 85 bar regulator from 500 to 780fps

no choke installed (biggest transfer port)

worked flawlessly with at least 10tins!!

I posted above about my steyr H5A.

I wanted to clarify that I made a mistake with my information about removing the air tube. You do not have to remove the stock to remove the tube, but you do have to remove the tube to remove the stock.

Because all the new steyr's come with the quick fill built in, their is no longer a need to remove anything to fill.

You won't be disappointed with this wonderful rifle.

Scott

I've been trying to recall the air volume of my Steyr Hunter Scout Auto-5. I've owned my for at least two years. In fact, I have moved every other air rifle on except my Hunter Auto-5. Lots of good information above. 

For the first time since I've owned the rifle the accuracy fell off a bit. I range fishing line down the muzzle and out the breech, tied a couple patches in the middle of the line, and pulled it back and forth with very tiny amount of cleaner. Took 10 minutes (took me longer to find the line). Accuracy was back.

I too would like this rifle (mine is .22) to run a bit more power. I'm right at 900FPS with 15.89 grain JSB and 840 with 18.39. This means FPE is around 29 instead of the advertised 30. I use the grub screw-attached adaptor on the end of the barrel to attach a 4" Hugget Belita. It makes the rifle VERY quiet and I shoot indoors most of the time, to date. Take the moderator off and ouch, probably as loud as .22LR! But, I always shoot with it on. I like the overall length of my rifle, with moderator it is 39". In fact, I've been contemplating some bull pups and with moderator many of those are only 3-4 inches shorter than my Steyr, which keeps me without a bull pup for the time being. 

I am having the 5th-shot drop in power at the moment. I've googled and found an excellent, long, detailed thread by another owner about this. It has to do with the magazine being properly indexed. The last shot (#5) may not be properly indexed which means I have to remove the barrel and re-index (I think?)

One last thing. I've found it very difficult to get any type of help in the US for parts (I needed a barrel o-ring, the green one). The USA distributor doesn't seem to have any interest and no, they don't ask where I bought the rifle. I have had some help from Pilkguns in TN but they deal mainly with the target Steyrs. I've actually had a bit of help from the company in Austria with exploded diagrams and parts lists.

I bought both my Hunter Scout and my semi-auto LP50 from Krale. I was pleasantly SHOCKED both times with 1). The hundreds of dollars I saved and the 3-day shipping time. I've never ordered an air rifle here in the US and had it exactly 3 days later. And the shipping cost at $50 is cheaper than most locations here. I wouldn't buy from Krale over the US to save $50-100, but if I can save more than that, I like Krale. 

If anyone knows the air volume of the cylinder I'd like to know so I can do some fill calculations.