Squirrels do seem to twitch and move alot after fatal shots. Often falling to an area out of sight, etc. Just haven't had a second shot.
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Squirrels at 40 yards. Recommendations
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Squirrels do seem to twitch and move alot after fatal shots. Often falling to an area out of sight, etc. Just haven't had a second shot.
Food for thought, my 24" barreled Remington .22 is as quiet as my Gamo Fox when I shoot subsonic ammo. No suppressor needed.
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Beeman R9 will do what you want, cheaper and easier than PCP and lighter cheaper and easier to load than a fixed barrel springer, they are a great addition to any collection.
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How about just putting your bait station inside your effective range. The idea that having it farther out by 20yds or so is going to help keep them off your house, might not be the best. No offence, but the gun you have now is lets just say, not the best tool for the job. Many springers exist that would do what you want much better and you would enjoy shooting much more.
The amount of money your willing to spend will get you into a top of the line springer. You might could come up with a pcp gun , tank, and pump but some or all would be low grade entry level. And you would soon be where you are now, looking to upgrade. The 22 rf with sub.sonic ammo option does exist, but you need a long barrel , over 20 inches to be quite and running a bullet through rifleing desiged for twice the speed you are not likley to be any better off in accuracy than where you are now. Best advise possible go to a comp. or show where you can see , hold and shoot.
The amount of money your willing to spend will get you into a top of the line springer. You might could come up with a pcp gun , tank, and pump but some or all would be low grade entry level. And you would soon be where you are now, looking to upgrade. The 22 rf with sub.sonic ammo option does exist, but you need a long barrel , over 20 inches to be quite and running a bullet through rifleing desiged for twice the speed you are not likley to be any better off in accuracy than where you are now. Best advise possible go to a comp. or show where you can see , hold and shoot.
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Another option not mentioned is if you have a 22lr you could just pay for the tax stamp and buy a suppressor
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Around here the CCI Subsonic is plentiful and cheaper. My experience is only with HS hollowpoint shorts and those were louder.
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I also used CB caps in my Remington M580 single shot and it was as quite as any breakbarrel airgun I ever owned. I still have that .22 by the way. Paid $40 for it new in 1978.
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TX200 MK3 .177, just shy of 11fpe. It'll get the job done with proper placement
Nice shot, and beautiful rifle! That's not your everyday TX200 MK3. That looks like an awesome piece. Thanks for sharing!
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A lot of good advice here, but I feel the need to inject a moment of brutal honesty:
Springers are... (content removed). Trust me, you're going to end up buying a high-end PCP anyway, so why waste time and money. Go all in. You won't regret it!
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Springers are... (content removed). Trust me, you're going to end up buying a high-end PCP anyway, so why waste time and money. Go all in. You won't regret it!
MOD EDIT: removed insults
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Way to win friends and influence people, or perhaps I just don't always get the joke
. Well enough said but not really entirely true. I get enormous pleasure out of my spring rifles and they have put a lot of meat in the freezer. They have been getting the job done for many years. There is no fuss, no muss, just a tin of pellets and a well made spring rifle. That combination with the right hunter will put game in the freezer every time you take it out.A PCP rifle will be easier to shoot well that is true. The converse is also true. A spring rifle will make a shooter out of you if you let it.
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LOL! Tell me exactly what you think, Spartan!
Believe me, I don't fall into ANY of those categories. I appreciate the info and opinion though. I think one of the main things I've learned here so far is that one doesn't "end up" anywhere. This hobby/obsession seems to be never-ending to most here. I've already got an LGU coming, but there is little doubt that I'll be adding a PCP before you know it. Y'all are a bunch of enablers around here. I really appreciate the springer folks giving me such great advice. I just wish they would all send me a check for $100, or whatever they can afford to help me with what looks like an addiction coming. Have a good one! 
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I'm counting on this being the case. I'm hoping the challenge that an accurate springer will pose will make me a better shooter before I dive head-first into other platforms.
Thanks!
Jim
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Absolutely true and very well said sir. A quality springer in the right hands will produce the same accuracy that can be had with a pcp. The limitation will be range and FPE on target. But out to 40 yards and even a bit further.......... a springer can be very consistent and effective. But you have to put in the work. In the end........as oldspook said above.......a spring rifle will make a shooter out of you if you let it.
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Way to win friends and influence people, or perhaps I just don't always get the joke
A PCP rifle will be easier to shoot well that is true. The converse is also true. A spring rifle will make a shooter out of you if you let it.
I was half joking. Maybe quarter joking... I do own springers, and I like shooting them.
But the OP wasn't asking about how to become a better shooter, or how to better appreciate the art of airguns. He was asking how best to kill squirrels at 40 yards, and with a $1k budget.
Despite all the wisdom and nostalgia, a springer is certainly not the best option given his parameters.
I stand by the recommendation in my original post: Spend your money on a high quality PCP setup and kill squirrels all day at 40 yards with zero hassle.
Maybe buy a nice springer down the road to learn the art and frustration of hunting with springers when the squirrel population has subsided a bit.
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A PCP rifle will be easier to shoot well that is true. The converse is also true. A spring rifle will make a shooter out of you if you let it.
I was half joking. Maybe quarter joking... I do own springers, and I like shooting them.
But the OP wasn't asking about how to become a better shooter, or how to better appreciate the art of airguns. He was asking how best to kill squirrels at 40 yards, and with a $1k budget.
Despite all the wisdom and nostalgia, a springer is certainly not the best option given his parameters.
I stand by the recommendation in my original post: Spend your money on a high quality PCP setup and kill squirrels all day at 40 yards with zero hassle.
Maybe buy a nice springer down the road to learn the art and frustration of hunting with springers when the squirrel population has subsided a bit.
I did not flag your post. I don't know who did. I am not in the habit of whining for help while hiding behind cover. I did not take offense because as I suggested I am not always good at spotting a joke. Apparently neither is someone else. I believe we have forgotten how to take a joke because of the constant whining we see on line every time someone sees or hears something which gets their panties in a bunch. Next thing you know you have moderators involved and someone gets their feelings hurt. You got to love the technology. It has made us a bunch of cry babies and triggered whiners. Thank the devs for happy faces, eh?
That said the OP did post in the springers, pumpers, replicas etc section of AGN though so he must have been interested in a springer or something like that. I agree it would be easier for him to do the job he wants done with a PCP until he has a quality spring rifle and it is shooting properly. At that point there will be little difference between the one and the other.
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Oldspook - Certainly I meant my original comments very light-heartedly and of course I never mean to offend anyone. It's just my sense of humor, but that doesn't always translate well on the internet. Lesson learned on my end. But I do agree with your thoughts above.
I agree that the OP did post in this section and I took note of that, but I also took note of this sentence in his original post: "I posted in the springer section because that's what I'm using now, but would entertain thoughts on a PCP if needed for consistent accuracy."
That sentence is the only reason I was pushing PCP so hard here. Otherwise I would have not commented at all; respecting the springer theme in this section.
I'm sure he'll be quite happy with his new LGU. Looking forward to chatting with all of you on other airgun matters (and without me causing the mods to get into it!). Certainly a great community here.
I agree that the OP did post in this section and I took note of that, but I also took note of this sentence in his original post: "I posted in the springer section because that's what I'm using now, but would entertain thoughts on a PCP if needed for consistent accuracy."
That sentence is the only reason I was pushing PCP so hard here. Otherwise I would have not commented at all; respecting the springer theme in this section.
I'm sure he'll be quite happy with his new LGU. Looking forward to chatting with all of you on other airgun matters (and without me causing the mods to get into it!). Certainly a great community here.
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