spring gun to PCP

Nikki , Holy Moly.......If I were in your shoes I would go with .22 cal!

You must have seen my corn bomb video? Listen at the 1:00 mark! LOL

https://youtu.be/dNblQMUuXq8

Then had a friend edit it for me! LOL

https://vimeo.com/113462019

Hi, 177 cal is the cheapest, but I use 22 cal , for every thing, (177 are too small & I have fat fingers & need reading glasses (which , i never seem to have ) for 177 , I don't know much about the Dreamline , other than watching a couple of vids, you can purchase a P-Rod, they are great for pesting, & have a mag, , in fact it's been 1 of my favorite a/g's for about 7 yrs , till I got a ZBroia Kozak, they are pretty cheap to purchase also, don't worry about asking questions , that's how you learn , everyone does it

Nikki I know selecting a rifle and accessories can be overwhelming but hopefully we can take some of that stress away. I would go with the .22 caliber too. It will be good for most pesting and small game in the 28 to 30 fpe ( foot pounds of energy ) range of the Dreamline or similar pcp's. You could even take raccoon or groundhog with the right pellet and placement. The .22 cal will hold its accuracy well out to 50 yards or more for target and pesting. The cost of pellets is less for the .22 cal. verse the .25 cal. For example the JSB brand pellets which are the go to for many shooters you pay $19 per tin but you get 500 in 22 cal while only 350 in .25 cal.. Also if you go for the FX Dreamline you have the option of buying a barrel kit if you want to go to .25 caliber later. Bill

And just like that Nikki slips deep into the Rabbit Hole, never looking back, or realizing how deep she had gone! 

Welcome to the Dark Side! LOL  

on no! that doesn't sound good! lol I think maybe my checkbook did! I haven't even asked about scopes yet!

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Well, the good news there is that PCPs don’t destroy Scopes like Springers can, so you can get by with just about anything that suits your needs and you are happy with. 

Nikki , I sent you a Pm

Thank you Mr. AB! I'm thinking .22 right now too...Mr Fuss agrees! I read about changing calibers on the Dreamline and I had no idea you could do that on a gun. Daddy still says that we're too poor to paint and too proud to white wash (I think he has more money buried at the fence post than he'll ever admit) but it seems like a wise choice if, in the end, I can change some parts instead of buying a whole new gun...right?

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Your welcome Nikki. Yes with the FX Dreamline you can change to a different caliber with a barrel kit. What I like about the Dreamline as mentioned before is that you can fairly easily adjust the power to your needs. Lowering the power will give you more shots per fill too for extented plinking and target shooting. I know there are other rifles out there for less money but when you buy a quality rifle like an FX they stand behind their products as shown with their new 3 year warranty. The quality and performance they give will make shooting so much more enjoyable. I have lots of centerfire and rimfire rifles myself. However nothing is more enjoyable than the ease to going out in my backyard and relaxing shooting my quiet pellet rifles. If your Dad and brother join in your sure to have some good family times sharing this activity. I don't know what part of the south your in but there is a company SPAW that sells air rifles and supplies in Florida. I have dealt with the owner Ken Hicks a couple of times and I am sure when your ready to buy he will treat you right. I personally live in Maryland but my father grew up in Lexington NC the home of the Barbecue Festival and pulled pork sandwiches, red slaw and hush puppies. Boy I miss eating those sandwiches. We also used to vacation at a place called White Lake NC where we would regularly make ice cream using the old hand crank tub with ice and rock salt. I miss my time there for sure. I bet CampFussell is familiar with this area. Below link to SPAW I think being in the south he might be good to deal with Bill

https://spaweapons.com/

I totally agree with Bill and buying your Deamline from Ken Hicks at SPAW. He will treat you right.

Bill, I've been to White Lake many times as a kid back in the 70's. Gosh, I bet it's been over 20 yrs since I've been there? Good memories and we made many a tub of ice cream with the hand crank and rock salt method. My fav was vanilla and grandad would put fresh peach slices in it fresh off the tree.

I've never had the opportunity to check out that Lexington BBQ, but would love to try it some day. I just settle for Smithfield's BBQ and their Brunswick Stew now days. 

Nikki, when your dad and brother see your new Dreamline, they will have to have one of their own???? LOL

Now it's time to start thinking about that scope? What power you like? Variable or fixed power? etc etc?

Holy to the Moly

Fuss

In my humble opinion,I would suggest .22

In return for that rambling,long winded reply...may I get Your favorite recipe for these greens of which you speak? Thank You,in advance! LOL!!

Mike.

you might consider the sig sauer ASP 20. For a springer it's powerful yet easy to cock ( break barrel ). In .22 it should shoot a 14.xx grain pellet about 840 fps. Synthetic stock about $350 through pyramyd air now. also a walnut stock about $400. will need a scope as it has no sights, just a rail for scope mounts. But it is a springer and you seem interested in the PCP's. The are great guns too.

Nikki, welcome to AGN!

I agree with .22 and I'd recommend an FX rifle for a couple of reasons. Light weight, 3 year warranty, and the warranty center is in NC. I had a 22 Streamline. Very accurate. It weighed 5.9 #s without a scope and has different power settings. A great PCP! With your access to an air supply you'd be crazy not to go PCP

Tom

Ma'am,



Stay away from PCP's. They are expensive. They need mucho support accessories/equipment and you will get spoiled. Springers well what's bad to say about em? Nothing in my opinion and as you may or can already tell, I am a springer man through and through. Crack the barrel, side or underlever, insert pellet and you are good to go. Even with a broken spring. Spring gun shooting takes discipline. A discipline that you can take to pcp's, rim and center fires. It will give you great satisfaction especially in HFT or FT. So please don't be swayed by the Darksiders because not to many people come back from it, lol

And to all you Darksiders, this reply post isn't a diss or stab at you all...well maybe a little, lol, just giving the lady some good ole honesty

HW guns are made by Weihrauch in Germany, fine guns they are, and they have a whole line of them. (I’m speaking of the Springers here) If I’m not mistaken, the HW PCPs are a joint venture with another corporation, but I’m not sure of all those details or even if that’s a fact. 

Beeman imports Weihrauch guns into the US, they are essentially the same gun, with some variation of stocks. 

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Interesting to read that Weihrauch partnered with another company for their PCP era. I was not aware of.

Does anyone know if the HW100 and HW110 are based on the same or almost identical technical scheme? I could not find any technical drawings

so far as for the HW100. Can someone point me to a HW110 if there is any?

Thank you.

And to all you Darksiders, this reply post isn't a diss or stab at you all...well maybe a little, lol, just giving the lady some good ole honesty

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As long as the optical rifle scope can hold the "zero" without shifting away. 

HW100 and HW110 is a really good choice for the upper range. I think the lady got already into the subject. An alternative would be a Walther Dominator 1250

for the lower price range. Another german company, in the US, I think the company is called Umarex. FX Airguns made in Australia are equivalent

to the HW100, they also make very high quality stuff similar to Weihrauch. HW100 with the walnut shaft is a really nice, good looking and high quality choice. The stripped down version is the HW110 which is a bit lower priced. The HW110 is very silent and shoots very accurate as from what I've seen on the web and looks really attractive ... in black.

HW guns are made by Weihrauch in Germany, fine guns they are, and they have a whole line of them. (I’m speaking of the Springers here) If I’m not mistaken, the HW PCPs are a joint venture with another corporation, but I’m not sure of all those details or even if that’s a fact. 

Beeman imports Weihrauch guns into the US, they are essentially the same gun, with some variation of stocks. 

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I bought a HW77K a while ago and tested their spring gun (My father was not happy at all but I still like Star Wars Luke and his Father story). Weihrauch has a wide range of spring guns and lots of different models and it's quite hard for potential buyers to find out which one should I buy. The spring gun from Weihrauch was okay. However I have tuned the gun a little bit by using a V-Mach spring guide and a V-Mach spring top head which made the spring gun a little better in handling and less vibrations.

I will now switch to a PCP gun since some opticals seem to have real problems with the heavy vibrations caused by springers. If you have a shifting zero point after 3-5 shots it's no fun at all to evaluate and test your own progress and shooting experiences. The gun is one thing, the scope is another important factor. The HW77K was around 400,- Eur which is already a quite demanding price for a springer and I was expecting more from a company making precision made in Germany. I was expecting a springer that a customer would not have to improve by tuning it to make it better. A spring top head is a must for a gun for that price range. (the HW97 is pretty much identical to the HW77). The two screws at the trigger part were loosen itself after 100-300 shots so I always had to keep an eye on them.

Therefore, I am sceptical with the german company Weihrauch, because I thought that Germany still stands for "Precision, Detail and Accuracy when it comes to mechanical artworks.

For me personally, I have read several reviews of PCP air rifles over the past months but I think the HW100 SS will make the deal. There are lots of spare parts available in case of but the gun for itself seems to be a very good and very accurate gun out of the box to test and to improve your own shooting experience. Most or pretty much all reviews and feedbacks you read on the web about the HW100 are top notch positive. The air rifle is high quality and the quality lasts and lasts over the years. The return of investment and fun for spending a little more seems to bear fruit over the years. The HW100 SS comes with a silencer out of the box.

In terms of scopes and opticals, I am considering either the Britain company HAWKE or the German company FALKE.

Regards,

Yorh