Yeah I took advantage of our college metal shop where the wife works. The instructor likes me and ordered a 30' square sheet of AR steel to make rifle targets for me. Kids cut them out for experience and all I had to pay for was the metal. Half the price of our local metal dealer. Got 12 targets each, 2 other buddies bought in, of differing sizes and they hold up really well to high velocity rifle and even better for steel challenge style pistol shooting. As long as the kids are low on projects I can keep sending them work. Next will be welding up a metal door frame and door for my safe room. Need super tight seal for prybar protection.