Something odd happened today.....

Bobbed06

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Today I had some time so I was sitting on my porch waiting for a ground hawg to show up and these huge crows came cruising thru. I decided since my Crosman Nitro Venom Dusk 22 was dialed in I would take a 45 yard shot on one of these massive crow. So I set the crosshairs on him, and sent one his way. I heard the JSB Jumbo Diablo 15.89 gr hit the crow, and the wind get knocked out of it. The crow tried to fly off, couldnt manage and dropped back into the tree out of sight. I went to look for it, and it somehow managed to be gone. What I find odd is that with a 7.4 Gr 177 Crosman Premier Hollow Point sent at about 1050 FPS I get a clean kill.....yet I send a 16Gr 22 pellet at 675 FPS at the same size bird and it manages to fly away?

Am I better off using the 177 7.4 Gr at higher velocity vs the 22 15.89 sent at a lower velocity? Should I switch to polymags in both? or Gamo Redfires?
 
Thanks for the feedback guys, although I am a newbie I do put in the time and work to make sure I am accurate within my ranges. I will be upgrading to a higher power scope in the near future.I will also go for head shots and try and keep shots at 35 yards or under if thats the only way I will be able to with 14 ft lbs. I am quite positive I hit close where I meant to. I thought a breast shot would be ideal and I must have hit it a tad toward the rear of the bird from where I was aiming.
 
"Bobbed06"Thanks for the feedback guys, although I am a newbie I do put in the time and work to make sure I am accurate within my ranges. I will be upgrading to a higher power scope in the near future.I will also go for head shots and try and keep shots at 35 yards or under if thats the only way I will be able to with 14 ft lbs. I am quite positive I hit close where I meant to. I thought a breast shot would be ideal and I must have hit it a tad toward the rear of the bird from where I was aiming.
It happens to us all, don't let it vex you to the point of losing confidence in your shooting. 

i had a 42yd deflection on a crow that was quite confusing as well last year and finally had to let it go as just "one of those things" very similar situation to yours but with a 40 foot pound .22. We're human. 

 
This is a two month old post of mine ... I still think about it !!

www.airgunnation.com/topic/are-pigeons-tough-to-bring-down/

I still can hear that smack and see feather fly in back of him and see him rolling down the roof .. that bird was hit hard !! go over and he is gone ... not a feather, not a nothing, one drop of blood on the roof ..... it was like it never happened ...

One the strangest things I have seen !

wll2506
 
Don't be too hard on yourself. If we're honest, it happens to all of us. I bet you hit him right in the wing joint and it broke his wing and deflected just enough so the pellet didn't get him in the clockwork.

I've had times with my .177 Marauder at 18 FPE where the pellet entered through the shoulder, then through a rib, then through all his guts, out the belly and into the rear leg, and it was a near instant kill.

Another time, yesterday morning, I hit him in the shoulder from the side and he ran off. He was limping; couldn't use that leg, but he managed to get away from me. (it's amazing how fast they are with only one front leg...) He's probably dead up in the crook of a tree somewhere. I heard the meat slap, it was a solid hit: "WHOCK" is how it sounded. I got a little lazy that time; he was walking when I took the shot, so I didn't want to risk a head shot. I tried the kissing sound, but he didn't care for my flirting.

Don't second guess yourself. It sounds like you knew your trajectory, hit him solid, but he got away from you.I think you did the right thing. A head shot on a crow at 45 yards with a springer is risky. Sometimes with those shots, you just knock the beak off and they starve to death. Plus, they bob their heads up and down when they decide to let out a call. So I wouldn't have tried that. What probably happened is that he fell out of the tree, and managed to hobble off somewhere you couldn't see him. Don't worry, the flies, ants and raccoons will find 'im.