Somebody made a post about slugs out of the RAW HM1000x about a week ago…

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I’ve tested a lot of slugs out of all of the FX slug liners since they came out about 3 years ago. Just about every slug available, out of all of the FX slug liners. However, I haven’t tested nearly as many out of our RAW. The NSA 33.5 shoots so well out of our gun, we just kind of left it at that. I did test quite a few but not like out of the FX liners. BIG MISTAKE! 

The post a while back got me thinking, so today I decided I’d test as many slugs as I could out of our RAW. I ended up testing one! The gun is tuned to shoot the 33.95gr. JSB’s at 910fps so I decided to start with one of the lighter slugs I had with me…The FX Hybrids at 26gr. I shot a group at 50yds. It was tiny, so I moved back to 75yds. It was tiny too, so I moved back to 100yds. This is the first group I shot at 100yds. It was going to be a 5 shot group but I got a little excited and fired off a couple extras. I think it’s 7 shots. Luckily, I didn’t ruin the group. For size comparison, my thumbnail is 5/8” across. Center to center about 3/8”.

This is one of the top three best groups I have ever shot at 100yds with slugs. The others were 5 shot groups though, so I’d have to say this is my best ever at 100yds. Ironically, one of the other top groups was with the FX Hybrids too, out of a FX Superior liner that Centercut now owns. 

So to answer the question about what slug to shoot out of the RAW HM1000x, I’d say start with the 26gr. FX Hybrids!

Have a great day.

Stoti

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That is amazing.Good shooting.That would be great group even at 50y.The question now is how long and how consistent can it do it.My Impact mk2 shoot jsb Knockout .216 i think it was three or four consecutive 5 shoot groups at 100 m (110y) under 1inch.But that was possible only for about 50 or maybe 100 shoots.After that accuracy wen't downwards.It was heavy lead fouling in the barrel.This was with stx not superior 700 mm barrel. 

For me this is not usable if i have to take out the barrel out and do heavy cleaning after few dozen shoots. 

I read many have similar problems with slugs. 

I hope you get better experience.

Regards Marko


 
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Yeah Derrick, I can’t believe I haven’t tested these before. After they shot so well out of the Superior liner, the fact that they’re light and our RAW isn’t the most powerful of our guns, these definitely should have been tested before now. I’m really stoked, this group is my best ever at 100yds, pellets or slugs and it was 6-7 shots, not 5 as usual. It was also about 8am, dead calm, no wind. That never happens at the ranch. I went looking for a Turkey afterward but no luck. Everything good down in your neck of the woods? I hope all is well. Have a great day!



Marko, thanks. This was by far the best of the groups at 100yds, the others were good too. Most probably between 5/8”-1 1/2” and they were all 5 shots. At 50yds, I only shot one group, it was tiny. Same at 75yds. I moved back and did most of the testing at 100yds because under 100yds we usually use pellets, unless it’s very windy. This was the best group by far and not typical. The gun is absolutely capable, very consistent & reliable. Even with a “perfect, most accurate air gun”, everything has to come together to shoot a group like this. There are so many variables and even then, luck can come into play a bit. At 100yds with slugs, a great shooter should expect to shoot under 2-21/2” over and over, under 1.5” maybe 1/3-1/4th of the time, under 1” maybe 1/10-1/15th of the time and under 1/2” about 1/50-1/75th of the time, maybe a lot less. I’m just totally pulling these numbers off the top of my head. The point is, even great shooters, with the very best air guns, do not shoot sub moa all the time, far from it! This was my best ever, I shoot at least 2-3 times a week and consider myself a pretty good shot. Would I trust this gun to head shoot a turkey at 100yds(with a great rest)? Yes. Would I expect it to shoot every group under an inch at 100yds? Nope. 

I don’t know if you lube your pellets or do anything with your barrel but there are things that can be done to really help reduce fouling. We polish all of our barrels, wax them and also use lube on all of our pellets and slugs. It can help with accuracy too but I haven’t seen much improvement. We take the time to do it, simply to reduce fouling. If you do polish your barrel, make sure you use a ball bearing swivel on the cleaning rod so the mop with polish follows the lands and grooves. That’s important! The RAW’s poly barrel and the FX liners don’t typically foul much, with them being polished and waxed, I almost never clean them. The exception is when I was testing some heavier .254” slugs out of the RAW. The larger diameter and longer bearing surface did cause the barrel to foul some. Nothing big though, it cleaned out very easily. Again, because of the polishing and waxing. Have a good one.

Stoti

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Congrats on your find, on slug choices, and on the very nice group you shot there! Hard to best something like that. I have a habit of stopping my searches when I find something that shoots well also. Maybe that is not such a good thing after all?

So what's a good slug for my Superior .30 700mm? It did good with the JSB 44.75gr pellets <MOA at 100 yards. I have some NSA 47.2 slugs but only a few boxes so I will be needing more soon.
 
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Biohazard/Ranchibi,

Thank you. It is definitely a lot of time and work. I started testing the FX liners in .25 because when the first FX slug liner came out, there was absolutely no information or data at all, none. Everything was focused on the .22. I’ve tested so many of slugs out of the FX liners over the past three years, that I actually quit testing them or slowed way down multiple times because I was getting burnt out. The guns have to be adjusted over and over for each slug, between slugs, weights, or when there are changes in other variables. I tested them all, lubed, unlubed, at different seating depths, high reg., low reg and everything between, light HS, max HS, 1-4 lines on the valve adjuster, with carbon liners, with no carbon liners, different probes, power kits, etc… There are so many variables and exactly why so many people hate slugs, never find success with them or give up on them. It is getting easier every day as technology and design advance. I was just testing slugs and that’s all I was doing, it just got to be too much. I still test them when a new slug or liner comes out but certainly not like I was. I agree that I probably didn’t test as many out of the RAW as I should have but like I said, there were reasons why. I’m certainly glad I tested them this morning though and the best part…I didn’t even have to touch any of the gun’s settings! I got lucky!

I haven’t tested any .30 slugs in the FX liners. All of my testing has been with the .25 and just a little bit with the .22. Like I said, when I started testing the .25, it was because there was no information or help available at all for the .25. I started testing and it all kind of snowballed. My buddy Tom shoots .30 a lot, I’ll see what he’s got to say about .30 cal slugs.

Have a good one guys!

Stoti
 
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Stoti Not meaning to railroad your thread but you did say you tried slugs in all the fx liners and i would be very interested in your 177 results as I’ve been trying to get some kind of slug to shoot well thru a 500 mm barrel at under 20 fpe for field target. I’ve only had mixed results with probably 3,000 slugs down the tube. Also was wondering if you find the 600 mm barrel to shoot better than the 5
 
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No sweat at all and no need to apologize. I’m sorry if my post was misleading at all. I’ve tested all available slugs and all FX liners in .25 caliber. I haven’t tested any .177 at all. I’m sorry. I’m sure someone here will see this and chime in and help you though. If not, just create a post asking about .177 slugs out of the 500mm liner. Have a good one.

Stoti
 
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So what's a good slug for my Superior .30 700mm? It did good with the JSB 44.75gr pellets
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Why the FX hybrids of course! Not joking at all. I tried the 44.5gr Hybrids last, when I should have tried them first. Also keep in mind NSA made a slight change to the base of most .30 slugs when they moved in August. This had a negative impact on accuracy for some users (me included). If your slugs have a little bump in the middle of the base, they are of the old design.
 
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Stoti Not meaning to railroad your thread but you did say you tried slugs in all the fx liners and i would be very interested in your 177 results as I’ve been trying to get some kind of slug to shoot well thru a 500 mm barrel at under 20 fpe for field target. I’ve only had mixed results with probably 3,000 slugs down the tube. Also was wondering if you find the 600 mm barrel to shoot better than the 5
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Different caliber, but the Daystate howlers shot just lights out from my 500mm superior liner in .22 at 980fps. If a 5 shot group wasn't making a cloverleaf or smaller at 50, it was on me. Oddly enough, I couldn't replicate the results with the 20.2 gr NSA's even though the howlers are made by NSA in 20.3gr. For that particular liner in that particular gun, that was THE setup. From what I remember it was a high reg (145 bar), light hammer (shorter barrel) and fairly tight valve (just under 2 lines)
 
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stoti said:
No sweat at all and no need to apologize. I’m sorry if my post was misleading at all. I’ve tested all available slugs and all FX liners in .25 caliber. I haven’t tested any .177 at all. I’m sorry. I’m sure someone here will see this and chime in and help you though. If not, just create a post asking about .177 slugs out of the 500mm liner. Have a good one.

Stoti
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.177 gay AF lol. If you are a adult. If you are a kid I understand haha! I wouldn't have taken you seriously if u used 177. No energy and a 1mph wind will throw it all over. I had a 17hmr that was great for a rare windless day that was explosive.
 
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Raydee38 said:
Def going to try these in my RAW .25 that is also tuned for the 33.95gr pellets.
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.25 is my favorite. I have a condor that slings .249 griffin boat tails that shoot better despite choked barrel than my .30 Vulcan 3 with 30063 AVS. .25 is the perfect middle ground imo. As long as you don't get a .177 lmao good idea those are sexy AF pcps
 
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stoti said:
I’ve tested a lot of slugs out of all of the FX slug liners since they came out about 3 years ago. Just about every slug available, out of all of the FX slug liners. However, I haven’t tested nearly as many out of our RAW. The NSA 33.5 shoots so well out of our gun, we just kind of left it at that. I did test quite a few but not like out of the FX liners. BIG MISTAKE!

The post a while back got me thinking, so today I decided I’d test as many slugs as I could out of our RAW. I ended up testing one! The gun is tuned to shoot the 33.95gr. JSB’s at 910fps so I decided to start with one of the lighter slugs I had with me…The FX Hybrids at 26gr. I shot a group at 50yds. It was tiny, so I moved back to 75yds. It was tiny too, so I moved back to 100yds. This is the first group I shot at 100yds. It was going to be a 5 shot group but I got a little excited and fired off a couple extras. I think it’s 7 shots. Luckily, I didn’t ruin the group. For size comparison, my thumbnail is 5/8” across. Center to center about 3/8”.

This is one of the top three best groups I have ever shot at 100yds with slugs. The others were 5 shot groups though, so I’d have to say this is my best ever at 100yds. Ironically, one of the other top groups was with the FX Hybrids too, out of a FX Superior liner that Centercut now owns.

So to answer the question about what slug to shoot out of the RAW HM1000x, I’d say start with the 26gr. FX Hybrids!

Have a great day.

Stoti

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Head shot time! Wow very impressive dude 😎
 
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