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So, who's shooting the Avenger?

Forums PCP Airguns PCP Airgun – Discussion So, who's shooting the Avenger?

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    Saltlake58
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    Yes, I'd like to see any mods as well!  Please post pictures if you can.

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    jmohme
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    The Avenger was one of the guns I looked at when I decided to give PCPs a try, but the plastic stock felt cheap and really turned me off. If they would have had the wood stock version at that time, I probably would have bought it

    Avenger is a really good entry level gun, but in my opinion, they should have initially put a bit more thought into the stock.

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    Saltlake58
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    I get the hesitation with the stock.  Since I already have synthetic stock guns, doesn't seem to be an issue with me.  While I'm glad I waited for the second wave of guns with minor improvements like a properly crowned barrel, I do think it's time to buy.  So as soon as they run another sale like the Christmas sale, I'll buy.  Still don't know what caliber though.

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    pat585
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    When i first got my NV Liberty i went to there web site & saw they had the Liberty plastic stock in a factory camo finish.Nova Vista Company Limited. I would have bought that if it had been available. Now the Avenger- (also shown in a camo finish) has been out for a while & i don't see any of the retailers offering it?

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    Cowdilly01
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    Does anyone know off the top of your head the barrel twist of the .22 Avenger?  Is it a 17?

     

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    Tomygun1
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    I’m an old guy and struggle to post pics on blogs but I’ll try, for now here is a description of mods on my Avenger.      I did remove the butt plate to ad liquid foam (which I did) only to find it already had a foam block inserted from the factory.      After completing the foam fill I honestly couldn’t tell the difference.      Several coats of Krylon seafoam green flat spray paint after sanding and masking off the trigger guard (polished the trigger guard leaving it black and sprayed it with Krylon gloss clear) has left a very pleasing rifle in appearance.      Stockwise, I find the overall weight of the plastic stocked rifle an advantage as the rifle is one of few light enough to comfortably hunt with and still have all the desirable features that make it a good bench shooter.

    Mine is 25cal and really barked, and not wanting to disturb my neighbors I have done a lot to quiet it down, much learned from this website.    I drilled the hole to vent the shroud near the receiver and added four thickness’s of MrClean pads for a buffer, added a Donnyfl shroud extender/ threaded shroud tip, and tried several suppressors to my satisfaction.      A downloaded decibel recording app to my iPad showed me that I was getting extensive hammer rebound so I backed the hammer spring adjustment off about 11/2 turns and that problem went away and didn’t affect velocity (I always want maximum).      Still looking for more I slid the shroud forward and began packing 4ought steel wool packing into the void with more improvement.      My testing on the decibel app indoors dry firing at this point registers just 75decibels, or whatever this app is capable of measuring.      That equals my sound suppression success with my 22 and 177 rifles and to say the least I am very pleased with the results, it is now quiet.

    Scope wise it has been a nightmare trying to get center, and after placing multiple shims everywhere I finally spent the $40 for a proper machined piccatiny scope rail set cut to fit the Avenger, that worked.      I topped it off with an 8X32X44/30mm tube SF 1/8moa 2ndfp scope I had in a drawer and I must say that I love the finished product.

    Anyone reading this post surly shares an interest in the Avenger PCP rifle, so my last thought must be that with testing ammo I hope you will find, like I have, that this rifle is super accurate and if you like to tinker will put a smile on your face.

    Tom

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    SkeeterHawk
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    Since you guys are looking for mods to the Avenger, a guy I subscribe to on Youtube has taken it to another level.  Here is a link:

    The manufacturer of the conversion kit says that they are currently out of stock at this link:

    https://www.doux.co.za/product-page/nova-leviathan-bottle-adapter

    I will probably get on the waiting list for that one…

    Hope you enjoy this link!

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    DakotaEnox8
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     I love mine, i have the 25 cal. plastic stock and i do have some upgrades, removed the stock barrel band and replaced it  with  one from black arts and the other is at the muzzle is v2 lock down, drilled out the barrel port and  I'm going to replace the Donny FL barrel Ext adapter with Cameron Kerndt (moderator)  and I'm going to replace the mag with  expanded capacity magazine. .25 from A.E. Swede. I use only NSA s slugs and  i have a Athlon 4 4×44 mil dot scope. I use it for hunting coyotes and woodchucks ect.

     

    What grain of NSA and what FPS?

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    Saltlake58
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    Tomygun1 – good thoughts on muffling the sound and the custom paint. 75db is quiet.  My Marauder is about 80ish db and it's very quiet.

    What scope rails did you use?  I've had trouble on guns where the scope wouldn't center, which turned out to be a barrel improperly installed (on a PB, but same problem).

    Skeeterhawk – that is some setup for modifications.  Larger tanks will give much more consistent results.  Not sure I want to spend that kind of money modifying a $300 gun, but it's always an option.  Amazing to see so many shots in .25 at 44 foot pounds from one tank of air.  You could hunt all day and never refill.  

    Sounds like Avenger lovers are a fairly quiet group.  Good to know how solid the platform is.  Now, just waiting for that next sale. . . . . . . . .

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    SkeeterHawk
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    I personally don't think of it as spending money on a cheap gun as much as it is bringing a cheap gun up to the level of the more expensive units.  If the gun doesn't have potential, you aren't going to shell out the coin for it.  I'm not going to spend the money to upgrade a $400 SIG Virtus because it will never perform like I'd want it to unless I make it an FX Impact piece-by-piece; however, I'm sure I have over $300 in upgrades on my $60 Crosman 2240, and I love the performance of that gun now.  In both cases, I would have spent $400, but my custom 2240 would shoot circles around a SIG out of the box all day long.

    Speaking for myself, it is easier (mentally) to completely disassemble a $400 gun than a $4000 gun.  If you REALLY screw up, you can buy another one…and then you have some extra parts.  That isn't as easy (for most of us) with a $4000 gun.

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    Saltlake58
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    SkeeterHawk

    I personally don't think of it as spending money on a cheap gun as much as it is bringing a cheap gun up to the level of the more expensive units.  If the gun doesn't have potential, you aren't going to shell out the coin for it.  I'm not going to spend the money to upgrade a $400 SIG Virtus because it will never perform like I'd want it to unless I make it an FX Impact piece-by-piece; however, I'm sure I have over $300 in upgrades on my $60 Crosman 2240, and I love the performance of that gun now.  In both cases, I would have spent $400, but my custom 2240 would shoot circles around a SIG out of the box all day long.

    Speaking for myself, it is easier (mentally) to completely disassemble a $400 gun than a $4000 gun.  If you REALLY screw up, you can buy another one…and then you have some extra parts.  That isn't as easy (for most of us) with a $4000 gun.

    I see where you are coming from.  I already have an Impact (that I blew up, whole 'nother story).  I guess that's a difference in viewpoint.  Since I blew up the Impact, and was forced to rebuild it myself, so taking an expensive gun apart doesn't bother me that much anymore.   I'm at the point where I just want a gun that I can adjust and shoots well, not as a frame to build a nicer gun.  Then again, my Marauder wasn't perfect, and I ended up spending a couple hundred $$ on springs, new hammer, and a regulator.  Now, I really like the way it shoots.

    Hoping the Avenger, out of the box, and with some adjustments will shoot even better. . . . .  No taking apart, just shoot. . . . . . . . 

    then again, I am a tinkerer at heart.  

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    SkeeterHawk
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    Saltlake58

     I am a tinkerer at heart.  

    Me too, big time, so that itch is satisfied by my 2240 obsession.  My Avenger came tuned to just under 40FPE, and the hammer was already nice and didn't bounce, so I haven't tuned it yet.  I will, but I haven't felt the need to because it fills the void (for me) in my collection by being able to shoot slugs at that power.  That said, I am looking into making the Pic rail on the bottom stronger and am starting with the outside on this gun.  I may eventually get into the guts, but I bought the 22cal also because I believe Steve from Air Velocity Sport is right that the 22 and 25 are most likely ported the same.  I figured that would keep me from having to take a drill to my gun for a while if I bought the 22, plus what I said about getting ammo at Walmart.

    I haven't regretted my decision to buy this gun for a second.  I'm also really excited to see all of the after-market support cropping up for it.  Even Saber Tactical is offering a Pic rail for it, as Tomygun1 mentioned.  This is all great for us!

    Happy Shooting!

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    SkeeterHawk
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    Just for grins, I took some pictures of what my Avenger looks like this week with the Doux Technologies bottle adapter installed and a new custom barrel band from Jake Bowman of JB3dPD.com.

    I'll be hydrodipping this gun when it warms up a bit, but I will post that as a separate post.

    Anyway, happy shooting!

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    Saltlake58
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    I did pick up a refurb Avenger for $180 last month.  That's one big advantage over an Impact, I can buy 10 or 12 Avengers for one Impact.  Impact definitely better in lots of ways, but heck, for $180. . . . . .  I cleaned and polished the barrel, Other than that, it'll be pretty much stock from the factory.

    It got too cold to go play comfortably, so I've been inside cleaning / polishing the barrel, and putting a few rounds through the Avenger.  Mostly, I'm tinkering with printing moderators for it.  I have one installed but am wondering which of the available designs works best.  Having trouble getting the printer to print a straight tube, so had to do some maintenance on the printer too.  

    I like the bottle gun design.  Probably gives a bit more weight to the gun, and a few more shots per fill. 

    as soon as the cold weather breaks, I plan on breaking out my compressor and filling all my tanks.  Really want to see what the Avenger will do accuracy and power wise.  

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    Saltlake58

    I did pick up a refurb Avenger for $180 last month.  That's one big advantage over an Impact, I can buy 10 or 12 Avengers for one Impact.  Impact definitely better in lots of ways, but heck, for $180. . . . . .  I cleaned and polished the barrel, Other than that, it'll be pretty much stock from the factory.

    Glad to hear that you got one!  I agree with the price-point not being comparable at all.

    Saltlake58

    I like the bottle gun design.  Probably gives a bit more weight to the gun, and a few more shots per fill. 

    I currently have a 450CL bottle on there, and the stock is 180CL, so I have exactly 2.5x the capacity.  That said, I am only filling it to 280 bar now instead of 300, so I am sacrificing a few shots for safety.  I haven't tried to see if I can get the same FPE with a more economical tune, but I am getting at least 60 shots at 34FPE with the bottle.

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    Saltlake58
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    Starting at a lower pressure takes some strain off the regulator.  the FX double regulator design is supposed to take the strain off the primary regulator, so only filling to 280 bar sort of does the same thing.  Good logic!

    Weather should be warm enough for me to run my compressor. Since it lives in a shed without heat, I can't run water to it when temps are under freezing.  I should have enough good weather to fill at least two of my tanks.  Then I can start tuning and setting it up to be a slug gun.  I just hope it has enough power to drive light slugs in the 900 fps range.  It should, but we'll see this weekend I hope!

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    Saltlake58

    Starting at a lower pressure takes some strain off the regulator.  the FX double regulator design is supposed to take the strain off the primary regulator, so only filling to 280 bar sort of does the same thing.  Good logic!

    The bottle is rated at 4500#, and the Doux adapter is very solidly made, so I am sure that the system would be fine to go to 4351# still, but as you mention, it is easier on the system to have a little lower head pressure.  I assume that there would be slightly less mechanical stress put on the bottle, etc.  It is great to have a larger capacity bottle, and I can still get a bigger one if I want since it is a standard thread now.

    Saltlake58

     

    I just hope it has enough power to drive light slugs in the 900 fps range.

    What caliber did you end up getting?  My 22cal can do it.

     

     

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    Tomygun1
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    I’ll send a picture of mine if I can just figure out how.     How do you attach a photo to the text?

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    SkeeterHawk
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    Hey TommyGun1.  Just click on this icon and find the file on your machine:

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