So, what's an Impact MKII really worth now?

Yes, I know exactly what you mean. I think there are those that PM and request Kudos for that and also when they give good advice that the receiver appreciates. How else do you think some have gotten over 160 green balls in less than a year? Yes, I do have a buttload but Ive been on since 2017 and I don’t solicit KUDOS or green balls...
 
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Yes, I know exactly what you mean. I think there are those that PM and request Kudos for that and also when they give good advice that the receiver appreciates. How else do you think some have gotten over 160 green balls in less than a year? Yes, I do have a buttload but Ive been on since 2017 and I don’t solicit KUDOS or green balls...

I remember someone would post videos then say oh if it helps anyone send a + my way. Added up quick.
 
I am in the market for an MK2 in 30 CAL once I saw the MK3 hit yesterday. I played around with some offers, but I was surprised at the asking prices. Even with the upgrades which are only a few hundred dollars in parts to the internals, the gun is still a year (more or less) old and who knows how many slugs and pellets the rifle has fired; every one taking a little bit of the rifle's life span away (I know dramatic). I can still go new MK2 with a Huma reg, power tune slug power kit and a slug liner in the sniper version for about $2100 OTD from Utah.

I think I just talked myself out of a deal I had agreed to in classifieds. Oops. I agree about 25% discount for used sounds appropriate to me. Glad I checked out this thread.
 
I just send a PM to the person I was going to buy a used MK2 from telling him the price we agreed on was too high. I tried to be cool about it and I hope he understands, but still feel bad. Money is money and I want to not waste it if the used market is too high right now. So glad I read this post. Thank you for starting it.
 
I follow many used markets and I must say that the prices on the stuff I watch have gone Way up,I hope people can wait for the prices to go down again...but you know the waiting part is what the problem is....supply and demand....some of it is psychological,I want it now,it will make me feel better,I have more time now,....whatever causes the inflated used prices to get higher; is happening,,, idea buying new can be a better deal...never thought I would say that.
 
Years ago when I sold my original FX Impact I just told the guy who contacted me to make me an offer. It was 6 months old. I wasn’t a forum guy so I had no clue what to ask for it but I was thinking in the $1,400 to $1,500 range. His offer shocked me. Not speaking about everyone in this hobby but for the most part we aren’t real wise with what we spend on used stuff. Guys swinging for the fence with their used gun or scope prices don’t even shock me anymore. I used to think what the hell is this guy thinking, now I know what he’s thinking. Some dummy will buy it, and they do.
 
Years ago when I sold my original FX Impact I just told the guy who contacted me to make me an offer. It was 6 months old. I wasn’t a forum guy so I had no clue what to ask for it but I was thinking in the $1,400 to $1,500 range. His offer shocked me. Not speaking about everyone in this hobby but for the most part we aren’t real wise with what we spend on used stuff. Guys swinging for the fence with their used gun or scope prices don’t even shock me anymore. I used to think what the hell is this guy thinking, now I know what he’s thinking. Some dummy will buy it, and they do.

You are absolutely right. The used gun is worth whatever someone will pay for it. So, to me, a $2000 new priced gun isn't worth more than about $1500 to me. To the next guy, might be worth $1900. It just depends on the buyer. Anyone trying to buy a house understands what I'm talking about.

I was considering selling my MK1 to UAG so they could resell it. They were willing to offer considerably under $1000 (way under). I understand why, because they would need to go through the gun, fix anything, and market the gun on their web site. He thought they could sell it for $1200 or $1400. and they need to make a profit. So, I get the offer. I declined to sell as the gun was worth more to me than the offer. We couldn't come together, but that's negotiation. Someone else might have offered $1400, which I would have jumped at.

It's all part of the negotiation game. I was just wondering what other people thought should be the price of used equipment. I know it's crazy out there and it only takes one person to prove you wrong by offering more!
 
I don’t know if it’s just me but if I can spend $1,800 on a pellet gun, I can certainly spend $2,100 on a new one. Saving a couple hundred in a hobby teaming with non gunsmiths performing google educated gunsmith work is just not worth the risk to me. Unless I’m getting a gun at a truly used price. But that ain’t happening and why I’ve never bought a used gun. Same with used scopes. Airgun guys are notorious clickers because of an airguns horrible trajectory. I don’t want a scope that’s probably being sold because it has a tracking issue. Just not worth the risk when a new one is only a couple bucks more.
 
All you guys selling your MK11s are making a knee-jerk decision. There's nothing wrong with these guns. Once tuned that way you like, what do you need more adjustment knobs and other junk for? Oh yeah, I forgot the quest for more velocity. Maybe you should consider a powderburner

Agree... Once they are tuned the way you want, what does it matter? The larger plenum is probably only beneficial in the .357 version, or .30 trying to get over 120 FPE. Yes, in the "quest" for more velocity, shooters tend to forget that accuracy trumps all else, and the higher power your gun, the harder it is to be accurate. There literally is no substantial benefit to shooting slugs over 900 FPS... Unless of course they are more accurate at higher speeds, which is not what I have observed. I shoot my .25 Impact X w/PP with 43.5 NSA at 885 FPS. Could I go faster? Of course, I don't even have the hammer weight or stronger hammer spring in my gun. But would it be better for hunting out to 250 yards? Probably not. To get slightly less drop, I would sacrifice a lot of shot count, and the gun would be significantly harder to shoot - and it would effectively be (for me) less accurate...

In my opinion, this could not have been stated better. I spent hundreds of hours testing and tuning my two Impacts, both in .22, to shoot mostly MOA at 100m with slugs. The 600mm does it at 885 FPS with 27gr H&Ns and the 700mm does the same at 910. The pigeons have reported not noticing the difference at these slower speeds. However, they are not happy with the high hit rate. 

For now I’m keeping both especially where I had the pleasure of meeting Hein Frommann who was kind enough to blue print them for me. This has raised the game to a fundamentally different level. Both guns have held their tunes for over 2 months now and 800 slugs. Accuracy has improved by 20 to 30% and the guns are 100% consistent now. No more fining tuning to get the guns back into their sweet spot. 
 
I don’t know if it’s just me but if I can spend $1,800 on a pellet gun, I can certainly spend $2,100 on a new one. Saving a couple hundred in a hobby teaming with non gunsmiths performing google educated gunsmith work is just not worth the risk to me. Unless I’m getting a gun at a truly used price. But that ain’t happening and why I’ve never bought a used gun. Same with used scopes. Airgun guys are notorious clickers because of an airguns horrible trajectory. I don’t want a scope that’s probably being sold because it has a tracking issue. Just not worth the risk when a new one is only a couple bucks more.

Exactly.
 
I don’t know if it’s just me but if I can spend $1,800 on a pellet gun, I can certainly spend $2,100 on a new one. Saving a couple hundred in a hobby teaming with non gunsmiths performing google educated gunsmith work is just not worth the risk to me. Unless I’m getting a gun at a truly used price. But that ain’t happening and why I’ve never bought a used gun. "



I agree with the above statement, you just don't know who your buying from unless you "know" them. In my case its just the opposite, I bought one and because I was smart enough to identify a small issue that some might not have noticed, was able to make it much better. Now mechanically I'm smart but I did have to reach out to a few members here, (that from reading their posts, felt they knew their stuff), for help tuning and voila, a great shooter. I just cant sell it to save my life because I'm not known. I still have morals and will NOT sell something that I'm not 100% sure its the same or better than I bought it. God knows I have bought some junk on here that was passed off for good LOL!! That stuff goes in the trash and I chock it up as a loss. Didn't mean to derail this thread..... :)
 
I don’t know if it’s just me but if I can spend $1,800 on a pellet gun, I can certainly spend $2,100 on a new one. Saving a couple hundred in a hobby teaming with non gunsmiths performing google educated gunsmith work is just not worth the risk to me. Unless I’m getting a gun at a truly used price. But that ain’t happening and why I’ve never bought a used gun. Same with used scopes. Airgun guys are notorious clickers because of an airguns horrible trajectory. I don’t want a scope that’s probably being sold because it has a tracking issue. Just not worth the risk when a new one is only a couple bucks more.

Well stated Sir!
 
coyotegod,

" I think I just talked myself out of a deal I had agreed to in classifieds. Oops. " Agreed to? As in "deal" or "I will buy it"?

" I just send a PM to the person I was going to buy a used MK2 from telling him the price we agreed on was too high. I tried to be cool about it and I hope he understands "

I am certain they will "understand". (Or your above quoted words were miss spoken?) , Your word is simply no good. I'm sure most people here everyone understands it's hard to be "cool" with proving to the world your "word" may not be equal to most peoples "I'll take it" or "deal" on here.

Hopefully they did not mark it sold and inform another person or more that actually were interested "but wanted to do some research" -a reasonable thing to do Before "making a Deal"- that it was no longer available.

Do appreciate your being open about it. Good to know.



John




 
I don’t know if it’s just me but if I can spend $1,800 on a pellet gun, I can certainly spend $2,100 on a new one. Saving a couple hundred in a hobby teaming with non gunsmiths performing google educated gunsmith work is just not worth the risk to me. Unless I’m getting a gun at a truly used price. But that ain’t happening and why I’ve never bought a used gun. Same with used scopes. Airgun guys are notorious clickers because of an airguns horrible trajectory. I don’t want a scope that’s probably being sold because it has a tracking issue. Just not worth the risk when a new one is only a couple bucks more.

Guilty as charged.

My gen 1 was victim of a serious stupidity incident and I (not a trained FX gunsmith) rebuilt the entire gun thanks to the FX Master Class, but it was ME turning the wrench and installing the O-Ring. I also installed the new STX barrel system and the power plenum, and FX was clear that voided my warranty. and let me tell you, that regulator rebuild was UGLY. That's not something I'd normally disclose in the advertisement, so yeah, it's a risk.

And yes, if I can spend $1800 on a gun, I can spend $300 for the privilege of taking the shiny wrapper off, new warranty, and no chance of someone like me turning a wrench the wrong direction.


 
I think there are some good points here. - a lot of people tune these rifles so there is potential for very high shot count, and shade tree/Dremel gunsmithing 

the rifles have what 34 o rings so unless it’s just been rebuilt you’re likely going to have a project in the coming months.

the maverick is very close to the capability of impact for most shooters 

not all the upgrades are transferable

for just the rifle I won’t pay over 1400 unless it’s a true safe queen, but I’m in no hurry. Those paying 1900 unless you have a good amount of extras I just go M3 when the second batch comes out incase they’re issues.

I have to say FX continues to impress, but I don’t get why the plenum is smaller then maverick.