Slugs ??

The South Africa you tube guys (mainly Matt D) are shooting, what are to me, extreme ranges with slugs. They are shooting .22 cal. Why .22? Why not .25 or .30 cal slugs? Short question, Is the .22 the best choice for 100+ yrds. with slugs?

Also, how does the FX slug liner shoot pellets? If the slug liner has acceptable accuracy with pellets, why bother with the standard .22? 
 
Matt said in a video, pellets are always going to be needed...they dont tend to over-penetrate. He said while the high power rifles and barrels can use slugs well with their much improved BC, a pellet is usually perfect for 20, 40, 50 yard shots. Obviously, pellets go further, just loose velocity so much quicker. But in a setting like on a farm, where he was, he would use pellets so as not to risk livestock. He was using an Impact dialed up shooting those custom slugs. The .22 would do fine as shown. A .25cal slug would be just as good, so long as gun has the power. 
 
Also, how does the FX slug liner shoot pellets? If the slug liner has acceptable accuracy with pellets, why bother with the standard .22?

My 600mm Slug-X liner with 1:16 twist shoots the 18gr JSB pellets just fine at 50 yds. 980fps got me a 3-shot half-inch group. I didn't test at any other range as I did it just out of curiosity.
 
Also, how does the FX slug liner shoot pellets? If the slug liner has acceptable accuracy with pellets, why bother with the standard .22?

My 600mm Slug-X liner with 1:16 twist shoots the 18gr JSB pellets just fine at 50 yds. 980fps got me a 3-shot half-inch group. I didn't test at any other range as I did it just out of curiosity.

I installed a HUMA at 150bar in my Wildcat and found the sweet spot for the hammer at 965fps with JSBs 18g. The only problem is it's a shotgun at 50yards. LOL Maybe a pellet liner would be better and a heavier pellet. I do want the slug liner whenever it comes out. 
 
Both .25 and .22 are great calibers and will work well in long range slug guns. The .22 caliber liners were released first so there are more of them out there. People have had more time and done a lot more testing with the .22 than with the .25 too. I'm sure there are other factors too but that's what came to mind for me since I just got my .25 liner a few weeks ago and have been shooting it as much as I can to get things figured out.

My .25 cal. slug liner shoots the 33.95 MkI pellets the same or better than the pellet liner that came in my FX Crown. I've been testing the .25 slugs slowly but surely, although the 33.95's shoot great, I want to take advantage of slugs that have a much higher B.C., after all, that's why I bought it!

I have so many slugs to test ranging from 25.4gr to 45gr, with different tips, bases, bearing surfaces, diameters, etc. that it's a slow going process. It's not like buying a tin of 33.95's and a tin of 25.4's and finding which one shoots better at what velocity in my gun! I've shot groups with each of the slugs I have and recorded the velocities, while looking for slugs who's accuracy stood out at those particular velocities. I then did it again with the top performing 6-7 slugs and tried those 6-7 slugs at both higher and lower velocities. I then narrowed it down again and looked for similarities in the slugs that would make them shoot well. The weight, base, tip, etc... I then try to narrow it down some more and do it again. Even the slugs that didn't initially test well I'm having to test again because they may be great at different, higher or lower velocities. I then have to go through the whole process again with those. It's so very slow because there are so many slugs to test, test again, and again, but I am making headway. I will post all of the velocity information for all of the slugs I've tested, as well as detailed information on the three or four slugs that I find to shoot the very best in my gun and at what velocities.

I'm going to keep at it over the next week or two. Hopefully I'll have some good results to share that will help cut down on the learning curve for those of you getting ready to shoot with your .25 cal. FX slug liner.

I want to give a big shout out to Dale at Varmint Knocker for helping me out with custom slugs... I've tested various Rat Sniper, various Nielsen, a couple AONCO, H&N and various Varmint Knockers. After lots of testing, Dale has made up a bunch of custom slugs at my request, with whatever bases, tips and weights that I want. Its been a huge help having whatever slugs I need made up for me quickly, so that I can see if I'm on the right track. Dale makes great slugs, he ships fast, his prices are great and he's a super nice guy to boot! Thank you Dale!

Stoti
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I'm getting excited because I'm finally seeing some good results! I have to admit, I was a little bummed before we talked... no slugs were shooting well. I just slowed down and got a lot more methodical about testing and it's paying off. Of course, the two slugs that are the most promising, I ran out of! Dale's hooking me up though. 

Stoti
 
Sounds good!

Just a thought, have you been cleaning the barrel often?

What's worked for me is to just run dry patches through. For the first few hundred, I cleaned only about every 100. After that every 50 or before each outing, which this time of year it seems I don't get more than 50 shots in an outing.

What's been different in my cleaning regimen since using slugs is I don't use any solvent or other type of cleaner.....just dry patches and only 2 or 3. Before slugs I always used Ballistol.
 
The South Africa you tube guys (mainly Matt D) are shooting, what are to me, extreme ranges with slugs. They are shooting .22 cal. Why .22? Why not .25 or .30 cal slugs? Short question, Is the .22 the best choice for 100+ yrds. with slugs?

Also, how does the FX slug liner shoot pellets? If the slug liner has acceptable accuracy with pellets, why bother with the standard .22?

Slugs need more speed than pellets and usually is easy to get it on small cals (less weight more shoot count)

You are right about why to choose a pellet liner if the slug liner shoots well, long story short, standar liners get out first, the impact was not designed to shoot slugs, but they are changing that as we speak.


 
Sounds good!

Just a thought, have you been cleaning the barrel often?

What's worked for me is to just run dry patches through. For the first few hundred, I cleaned only about every 100. After that every 50 or before each outing, which this time of year it seems I don't get more than 50 shots in an outing.

What's been different in my cleaning regimen since using slugs is I don't use any solvent or other type of cleaner.....just dry patches and only 2 or 3. Before slugs I always used Ballistol.

Bob,

Do the slugs leave less lead in the barrel? Are they a harder alloy?