Slug Liner Indexing

I thought I'd try indexing my 25cal slug liner in my MKII in hopes of increasing accuracy. I used NSA's 34gr slugs for the test. Position "0" degrees was where I was I had it previously zero'd. From there I indexed it every 90°. I like the results at the first 90° due to it being the highest POI and a tighter group. I was surprised that the POI change was over 2". The 180° also looked similar to the 90° but was a little more off center. I am curios if the the MKI or MKII Heavies would of had the same results so maybe a test of those will be next.

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I'm glad you finally got around to trying it Jimmy! I told you what to expect and now you can see for yourself. To answer your question about what pellets will do, I will tell you that pellets will do the same thing. There are guys like Richard Utting that "tune" the barrels on their long range rifles using 12 pound "donuts" on their barrels to control the harmonics. The donut dampens the barrel whip inherent with all barrels when a shot is fired...the goal is to tune the barrel so that the bullet leaves at the top most point of the whip. 

So you definitely want to keep the liner at the 90 degree position not only because of the tightest group, but also because it is the one most centered with your bore. Now if you want to take it a step further and fine tune your liner setting do two more experiments.

First, using an inch pound torque wrench check to see how tight you made the nut at the muzzle...you may find that making the nut a little more tighter or less tighter tightens up your group even more. But you want to be able to remove your liner and put it back in the rifle with the registration mark at top dead center 12:00 o'clock position, and the exact same torque tightness on the liner/barrel nut. Over tightening the nut or leaving it too loose has a very negative effect on your group size.

Second, now that you have it this good you can loosen the barrel nut and just turn the liner to the right to the 1:00 o'clock position and shoot a group, and then turn the liner to the 11:00 o'clock and shoot a group and see which one of the three groups is the tightest...11:00, 12:00, or 1:00. 

Since using a 12 pound barrel weight would not be practical for us airgunners we are only left with indexing the barrel. And as I pointed out a few months ago, barrel indexing is one of the absolutely cool things we can do now that we have this STX barrel system with these liners! 

PS: One of the range officers named Pete at the range where I go has a .22 cal. Anschutz rifle that he paid the factory to index the barrel for him...on a flat calm day at 100 yards his rifle will make a nice little 1/2" clover leaf groups that are unbelievable. He is the person that explained it to me several years ago, but until I got my Wildcat .30 a few months ago I could not do it. Until you index the barrel liner on your STX barrel you will never truly know how accurate your FX rifle can be! There are lots of other factors involved in accuracy but I believe this is the foundation upon which all the other things are built. I for one would love to see the results from Bob_O doing this with his .22 Impact using his most acccurate slugs as an example to other guys...it may turn out that his liner is just in the perfect position from Ernest tuning it.
 
Oh joy! Another rabbit hole for me to go down just when I got done shooting 3 tins trying to find out the correct comb height, and cheek position on a gun I probably wont shoot all that much.

I'm quite sure the liner indexing will take double that! Oh darn, what's a girl to do?

Seriously tho, I'm hoping 25 meters is a long enough distance to test the indexing. It's the distance I always have available, and that has fans I can aim at me so i dont fry in the heat.

My poor pellet budget.




 
Thanks all for the kind words and advice.

bty airsupply, yeah I really want to try to fine tune the indexing and also do the Bob-O valve tuning. Maybe it'll make these slugs play nice.

Thanks Chuckster, I did file a mark into the liner at 12:00 and also marked the retention nut. I haven't experimented with the torque yet but I'm somewhere between too loose and stripping, lol.

I was glad to see though that after pulling the slug liner this morning and running in with the A liner and finding that it didn't shoot the Heavies any better and the slugs oh so much worse that when I re-ran the slug liner and put it back in the same position that it was in before, it shot exactly the same.

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Wow Jimmy that's just too cool! I think you will find that the slug liner shoots the pellets at higher velocity better than the A liner does...and whatever position works best for your slugs will most likely work best for your pellets...at least that was my experience with it. I differ from Air Supply because your 90 degree group was higher than your point of aim and also directly centered left to right, which tells us the barrel is throwing the projectile out of the muzzle at the highest centered point just as it "cracks the whip"! 

One other thing I recommend Jimmy is to lightly polish the leade into the liner and the crown on the liner with 1200-1500 wet/dry paper. This paper has sort of a soapy feeling when wet but I still put a couple drops of Dawn in a cup of water and keep the paper wet during polishing. For the leade into the liner and the inside of the brass thimble I tape a piece of 320-400 paper onto a small drill bit and wrap it with the idea of running the bit in the Makita in reverse so I can't hurt anything. Then with the drill motor in reverse I smooth out the first 2-3 inches inside the liner and finish with 800 and then 1200-1500 paper.

This is so that there is a super smooth transition for the pellet or slug into the first couple inches of the liner...any micro damage as the pellet or slug jumps into the liner shows up on your target groups. I don't penetrate the muzzle end of the liner...I only polish it by sharpening a pencil and pushing the tip through a piece of 1200 wet/sand paper and spinning the pencil with my hands only, just to polish the crown until under my magnifying glass it looks like chrome. The last thing I do is check the inside of the transfer port hole in the brass thimble with a Q-tip to make sure it is free of burrs that might scratch or damage the pellets or slugs as they enter the chamber. 

Just for fun let's see if we can get that 90 degree group into one tiny hole Jimmy... 😂

Fond regards, Chuck