Can someone tell me if these are legal in the state of Pa and if so what would you recomend. It will be going on a BSA superten. Thanks in advance.
Hes talking about one for an airgun. The hearing protection act has nothing to do with airguns or airgun silencers. The BATF does not regulate airguns or silencers designed for use on airguns. This has been debated many times over."Goodtogo"Even if states allow you to own one, you still have to jump thru the federal hoops. $200 and wait 6 months or so for the paper work. Bills were put in early in 2017 to change the fee and months of waiting. It is being pushed under hearing protection. It could be next year before that is passed or longer? Here is a list of states that don't allow them as of April of this year. Buts its a easy subject to look up thru google but make sure of the date on the posts that you are reading.
The eight states that still ban silencer ownership are California, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, and Rhode Island.
"LDP"
Hes talking about one for an airgun. The hearing protection act has nothing to do with airguns or airgun silencers. The BATF does not regulate airguns or silencers designed for use on airguns. This has been debated many times over."Goodtogo"Even if states allow you to own one, you still have to jump thru the federal hoops. $200 and wait 6 months or so for the paper work. Bills were put in early in 2017 to change the fee and months of waiting. It is being pushed under hearing protection. It could be next year before that is passed or longer? Here is a list of states that don't allow them as of April of this year. Buts its a easy subject to look up thru google but make sure of the date on the posts that you are reading.
The eight states that still ban silencer ownership are California, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, and Rhode Island.
I'm not saying what you can or can't put on an airgun? Its simple to look up as I said. I think if it can be removed and added to a different gun it can make a difference? here is what the Alphabet org has on their website.(and I do have the type that can be removed on a couple of my rifles) And for me its not a debate since I have no real idea what is correct or not correct.
the following is from the Alphabet org site
https://www.Alphabet org.gov/firearms/qa/are-paintball-andor-airgun-sound-suppressers-nfa-firearms
The terms “firearm silencer” and “firearm muffler” mean any device for silencing, muffling, or diminishing the report of a portable firearm, including any combination of parts, designed or redesigned, and intended for use in assembling or fabricating a firearm silencer or firearm muffler, and any part intended only for use in such assembly or fabrication.
Numerous paintball and airgun silencers tested by Alphabet org’s Firearms Technology Branch have been determined to be, by nature of their design and function, firearm silencers. Because silencers are NFA weapons, an individual wishing to manufacture or transfer such a silencer must receive prior approval from Alphabet org and pay the required tax.
[26 U.S.C. 5845; 27 CFR 479.11]
Edit: I always wondered what it takes to get a negative thanks @LDP for showing me how to get one.
Well said LDP"LDP"Yes it all comes down to intent. Airguns use 1/2x20 and firearms in .22 cal use 1/2x28 and larger calibers use larger thread sizes. So in order for a suppressor for an airgun to be deemed a firearms suppressor the batf has to show intent to use it on a firearm. There are two ways for that to happen.
intent #1: You have an adapter that goes from 1/2x20 to 1/2x28.
Intent #2: You have a firearm re threaded to 1/2x20.
Without either they cannot prove intent. You cannot screw a suppressor onto a firearm with different threads. It is a very clearly stated law when you actually read it completely. The court has ruled in a very clear manner on this subject in the past. The court made it very clear that the suppressor had to be designed to fit a firearm and be used on a firearm or had been altered to do so by the person. They ruled that way for a very good reason. If they didnt put that wording into the law we would all be felons if the batf wanted to prosecute us for having tape and an empty coke bottle in our house.
To prove this point even further look at the hugget suppressors aoa sales with pcp rifles. Yes they use a liquid bonding agent so it doesnt unscrew from the barrel but the batf does not recognize that as a permanent install. In order to comply with batf rules it must be either blind pinned or welded on to be considered a permanent install making it part of the rifle. Since you can easily heat it up and unscrew it aoa would be putting themselves in a legal situation if suppressors designed and intended to be used on airguns were illegal. Believe what you want its your choice but the supreme court has already ruled on this.