Sightron & Vortex

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    SJIJ
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    So i'm still struggling between these scopes. These two are my first options at this moment.

    – Sightron SIIISS 6-24X50 LRFFP/MH
    – Vortex Viper PST Gen II 5-25×50 FFP EBR-2C (Mrad)

    Both are really interesting, have good specs and heard nothing but good about them.

    I woud like to hear some opinions from you about these two scopes. The pricerange is almost identical. Vortex has parallax range from 25 yards and Sightron from 40 yards. Vortex has illuminated reticle, but i don't think, that is so big deal for me, but that might be nice anyways…don't know. Sightrons reticle is indeed good and clear, but so is in the Vortex too..

    It would be nice to hear pros and cond and other stuff what you think about these two copes

    Anyways. Thank you very much if you are able to help me in this case.

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    I have a Vortex PST with 1/10 mildot clicks (about 1/3 inch) on an extremely accurate Remington 700. The adjustment is too course for such a fantastic shooting gun.  The clicks are great for quick adjustments but not for precision. Always have to hold a little off. Great scope but don't like that adjustment.

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    I only have experience with Sightron-siii's and they are excellent. All of mine have been models that dial parallax down to 10yards though. Didn't realise the 6-24 was only from 40?

    25 yards is fine, but I wouldn't put a scope with a minimum parallax of 40 yards on an airgun, so I'd go for the vortex in this situation (assuming this is actually for an airgun).

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    I only have experience with Sightron-siii's and they are excellent. All of mine have been models that dial parallax down to 10yards though. Didn't realise the 6-24 was only from 40?

    25 yards is fine, but I wouldn't put a scope with a minimum parallax of 40 yards on an airgun, so I'd go for the vortex in this situation (assuming this is actually for an airgun).

    Yes. I forgot to tell, that i will use it in a air rifle. And the distances what i'm about to shoot is everythig between 10m / 11 yards to 100m / 110 yards…maybe little bit longer, but not very often.
    Parallax is one thing what bothers me quite a lot in many scopes, which interests me just because they usually starts from 40-50 yards. It would be nice if parallax starts approx. from 10 or 15 yards or something like that.

    I have heard that sometimes those yardage markings in parallax turret are not always true. But i don't want to take a risk with that. I believe that if it says like 40 yards, then it's 40 yards.

    Reticle what i'm looking for is Mil-Dot or Mil-Hash style, but not messy weird christmas tree reticle. I don't need that kind of reticle for my purposes.

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    I find that scopes often to parallax down slightly, but not much below what they state. My delta stryker goes down to about 18 rather than its stated 25yards, which for me is fine.

    A scope with an advertised 40 yard minimum parallax you can pretty much guarantee won't be suitable even if it's an outlier. They're pretty much made for centerfire.

    From what you've said, I'd consider looking for a sightron-siii with lower parallax adjustment if you can, particularly if you think you'll be shooting a lot below 20yards. Not sure if they make them with 10 yards parallax in all mag ranges though. Obviously there are other models/makes out there which may suit your needs better, but that's all personal preference in the end 

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    I find that scopes often to parallax down slightly, but not much below what they state. My delta stryker goes down to about 18 rather than its stated 25yards, which for me is fine.

    A scope with an advertised 40 yard minimum parallax you can pretty much guarantee won't be suitable even if it's an outlier. They're pretty much made for centerfire.

    From what you've said, I'd consider looking for a sightron-siii with lower parallax adjustment if you can, particularly if you think you'll be shooting a lot below 20yards. Not sure if they make them with 10 yards parallax in all mag ranges though. Obviously there are other models/makes out there which may suit your needs better, but that's all personal preference in the end 

    Sightron has new model S-TAC 4-20×50 FFP and has parallax adjustment from 10 yards to infinity, but it is not yet available here in Finland.

    I'm lookin for a FFP scope, so the range of Sightron scopes is pretty limited. Magnification what i'm looking for is something like 4-6 to 20-25.

    The distances i am shooting is mostly about 15-25 yards, but pretty much farther too. Like i said everything between 10-100 yards and sometimes farther.

     

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    Hi SjIj,

    I have both scopes and It is very hard for me to say which one I like better? They are both wonderful scopes! However, I really don't think you will get what you're looking for with parallax. I tried the PST on my Crown and it just would not come in well before 50.

    I do have a suggestion though. Vortex just came out with one called the Diamondback tactical. They will focus down to 10 yards and the clarity for a scope in this price range is amazing. Also, Vortex has the best warranty in the industry. Other then theft or loss they fix or replace and they mean it, also they are transferable. I have been buying their scopes for about 12 years and I honestly believe that is what put them on the map.

    I now have the Diamondbacks on my two airguns, a 10/22 and a 17wsm which are used for squirrels. I think they are perfect.

    I hope this helps a little bit for you,

    Eamon

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    SjIj,

    I have put a S-Tac 4-20×50 MOA -2 Recticle 30mm tube on my rifle this is SFP , the scope feels a little cheap but works very well focus down to 10 yards very well and accurate at 140 yds . I had tried to get a IOR with the M8 recticle to work but was heavy and wouldn't focus at 10 yds so put it back on the 22.250 . The thing with FFP is you need a hash recticle as on high mag the mildot is very big which is fine at a 1000 yds but at airrifle ranges would be I feel a disadvantage this is with a PM 11 .

    The S-TAC was 460 pounds here . 

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    Eamon

    Hi SjIj,

    I have both scopes and It is very hard for me to say which one I like better? They are both wonderful scopes! However, I really don't think you will get what you're looking for with parallax. I tried the PST on my Crown and it just would not come in well before 50.

    I do have a suggestion though. Vortex just came out with one called the Diamondback tactical. They will focus down to 10 yards and the clarity for a scope in this price range is amazing. Also, Vortex has the best warranty in the industry. Other then theft or loss they fix or replace and they mean it, also they are transferable. I have been buying their scopes for about 12 years and I honestly believe that is what put them on the map.

    I now have the Diamondbacks on my two airguns, a 10/22 and a 17wsm which are used for squirrels. I think they are perfect.

    I hope this helps a little bit for you,

    Eamon

    I have considering Diamondback Tactical also, but for some reason…don't know why i left it out of my options. But now when you mentioned it, i have to seriously consider it again. The price is not bad either.

    Athlon also has one interesting option too…actually two. Athlon Midas TAC 6-24×50 and Helos BTR 6-24×50. Both are FFP and has parallax from 10m to infinity. Also decent and simple reticles. Helos has an illuminated reticle though.

    Athlons are way more expensive than Vortex, but quality matters. Well…i can't say anything about quality, because i haven't looked through either of them, or even seen them.

     

     

     

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    shoot44
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    I can attest to what Eamon said about the Vortex warranty.  Had a issue with one of their scopes, sent it back and not only did they replace it they sent me a scope costing over $100 more, no charge, no questions ask. Said they wanted me to be satisfied with their product. Recently tried to get some warranty work on a Nikon, which I have several of and are great scopes, and all I got was a big hassle. Probably no more Nikons.

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