Sig saur debacle?

I was watching Rick Utsler's airgun discussion the other night and he said something about sig missing an opportunity and said it was a debacle. Does anyone know to what he was referring? I really like sig and was looking forward to seeing them grow into the business of selling airguns. What happened did they make a disappointing announcement or something? 
 
I can only *assume* it was about the ASP 20 now you see it now you don't. Came out with an innovative and quality product and then pulled the plug before it really got started. Made lots promises I believe on the "big" plans for air guns being made in the USA and all then poof I think a lot of it evaporated. Could be something else but again that is my assumption.
 

Two different companies for many years now. Sig Sauer Germany and Sig Sauer USA are both owned by the same holding company, but have operated separately for many years. Sig USA is much bigger, and is, in my opinion, the most innovative firearms company out there these days. Between the P320/M17 platform, the SIG Virtus/AR15 platforms and the biggest small gun introduction in the last decade, the P365 they are riding pretty high in the firearms world right now.

Their training courses at the Sig Sauer Academy in New Hampshire are among the best offered by any gun manufacturer, both in the breadth of the offerings and the quality of the courses (and yes, I have taken a few…)

Unfortunately their airgun exploits leave a bit to be desired. They seem to throw a lot of stuff at the wall and if it sticks, then they keep it moving forward. If it doesn’t blow up into something big, they drop it and move on. They do seem to have stuck with the basic CO2 pistols which are clones of their P226 and P320 platforms. I did buy one (P226) a couple of years ago when I was up there for a 3 day course and didn’t have my firearm with me (They will lend you whatever you need for the course however you leave it at the facility in the evenings. You only have to pay extra for the ammo). It did allow me to practice dry fire in my Hotel room everything night for a couple of hours, since the trigger was quite similar to the firearm.

Chris
 

Two different companies for many years now. Sig Sauer Germany and Sig Sauer USA are both owned by the same holding company, but have operated separately for many years. Sig USA is much bigger, and is, in my opinion, the most innovative firearms company out there these days. Between the P320/M17 platform, the SIG Virtus/AR15 platforms and the biggest small gun introduction in the last decade, the P365 they are riding pretty high in the firearms world right now.

Their training courses at the Sig Sauer Academy in New Hampshire are among the best offered by any gun manufacturer, both in the breadth of the offerings and the quality of the courses (and yes, I have taken a few…)

Unfortunately their airgun exploits leave a bit to be desired. They seem to throw a lot of stuff at the wall and if it sticks, then they keep it moving forward. If it doesn’t blow up into something big, they drop it and move on. They do seem to have stuck with the basic CO2 pistols which are clones of their P226 and P320 platforms. I did buy one (P226) a couple of years ago when I was up there for a 3 day course and didn’t have my firearm with me (They will lend you whatever you need for the course however you leave it at the facility in the evenings. You only have to pay extra for the ammo). It did allow me to practice dry fire in my Hotel room everything night for a couple of hours, since the trigger was quite similar to the firearm.

Chris


That's very good news, Chris :)
 
I think they mostly want to say with airgun "clones" of their popular firearm pistols since they feel they can market those easier to their customers will accept/understand a CO2 training airgun that compliments their firearms. The ASP 20 was true air rifle which I think very few of their customers are interested in and people who love springers like me are a very different customer than firearms people. It was probably more trouble than it was worth but it would be nice to see them sell the ASP tech so someone else so it could see the light of day it had a lot of potential.
 
I know someone who bought the asp and while the technology is very cool he complained about the quality of the rifle. It shot just fine but the metal work seemed low quality.it came with tool marks scratched into the breech area and a few places where it seemed more like a Walmart gun than a 500 dollar gun. I saw pictures so I I know he was for real. Anyway I also hope they sell the patent so we can see that lock up technology on other guns.seems like a huge improvement in eliminating barrel droop and possibly improvement in accuracy. That's too bad they aren't making it anymore.Im sure that's the answer to my question.thanks guys.