Shrouded/Silenced Disco

We hear you.

Chip, I'm not trying to call Crosman out right now but that has been your response to all of these posts...

Does Crosman plan on making some announcements soon as to whether or not hearing us turns into producing for us?

You can;t win them all, the Disco fills a great niche in the market appealing to people who want a PCP that shoots well and does not cost a fortune, you start asking them to do R&D to develop a shroud or attached moderator and you put the base price up, I can see Crosman doing that and then having people complain that the price has gone up, and not everyone wants to silence their guns and add the extra length to it. If you want a quieter gun than the disco then why not just buy a Marauder? Neil.

The Discovery is an entry level rifle to the world of precharged pneumatics and every consideration was made to get this rifle to an affordable price point, keeping in mind the majority of purchasers will also have to invest in a fill solution. It's not a high-end precision rifle and adding the options mentioned will add costs that may prevent PCP adopters from getting into the sport.

A good gun that solves the dilemma of a family gun with a good trigger and a shroud is the Marauder Pistol. It includes a stock to turn it into a lightweight shoulder-fired gun plus it has a 3000 PSI reservoir that is easily filled with a hand pump (vs. the expense of a tank).

@WheresWaldo some response is better than none but here's a clue: that response may, *MAY*, be construed to mean we have a product in development and the suggestion will be added to the list of features being considered. We try to avoid commenting on unannounced products but do follow many forums for trends, innovative solutions and how folks are using our products.

I agree chip, a partial answer IS better than no answer! I look forward to Crosman continuing to push and develop this sport!

Thank you

You are making the assumption that adding a shroud or factory LDC would only increase the cost by $50, you may ask Crosman to think about the options but you can not tell them how much to add to the price, the product still has to at least make the same profit or it is not viable for them to do, so you may get what you ask for with a bigger price increase than you want to pay. If you are that interested in having it quiet why not spend the money and buy a used aftermarket LDC, they are quite often more effective than the factory options anyway, Neil.

I think a redesign would be needed - and from what I know about manufacturing, that is NOT cheap. New molds cost big bucks.

The reason I say it would need a redesign is because the barrel is so close to the air cylinder - too tight for a shroud. So, you'd have to make a new block...and then you would need to redesign the stock...and then you might as well make a completely different gun (because it would be). . Or, you could give the discovery a shorter air cylinder so that you could get a partial shroud on the end of the barrel...but, then you would be losing shots.

As someone who gets 100's of requests for 'video ideas' every day, I empathize with the manufacturers when I hear folks grind at them about not listening to consumers. They are listening. It makes good business sense to listen. But, if they are acting on the advice and wishes of consumers, it would NOT make good business sense to tip their hand. Consumers would generate expectations, and competitors would steal ideas.

I'm NOT saying that we shouldn't continue to press manufacturers to make the goods we want. That is good for us AND them. I'm just saying that I am content to know that I have been heard.

Hey, thought i'd add a question to this. I am looking at getting a backyard friendly air rifle in .177. The ones iam looking at say they fire over 1200fps which will break the sound barrier and make a unfriendly 'snap'. I live in Canada so i can't do anything to silence my rifle in anyway. I am looking for anyone with information on keeping a high power .177 under the sound barrier with heavier lead. Air gun iam looking at is the Benjamin Trail NP2 in .177 for reference. 
thanks

I live in Canada as well. If you are looking for a backyard-friendly rifle you don't really need high velocity and the associated problems. You could look at some of the lower velocity rifles or maybe consider going to .22 caliber. There are several Canadian sources for airguns, check out this site http://www.dlairgun.com/Air-Rifles/Weihrauch-Canada/ for some rifles made specifically for Canada. Hope this helps.

The BNM breech, and shroud solve the noise level. Bob Cothran makes parts, and valves that easily out power any Marauder. Carson (rat sniper ) has a valve created for his new pumper, it fits the Disco or Challenger that's a powerhouse, Add a LW barrel, you've got accuracy without the weight. Crosman created a great affordable entry level pcp in the Disco, you can take this gun from a cannon to a surgical tack driver.

I have to agree with guod123. I went the route of building a Disco Double with the BNM Breach and shroud, added the MRod trigger group, heavier hammer spring, hammer spring adjuster, added a new LW barrel and better flowing valve...what I had at the end was a $1000 dollar Disco. It was a lot of fun chasing the rainbow during the build. I do not regret it and really enjoy the light weight and accuracy. The Discovery is great for what it is and what it is not, I wanted to get into PCP air guns and this was my path. I suggest you get a disco if you want a budget rifle that is easy to fill from a hand pump to get into a PCP. Would I do it again...yes and no...I now have a different perspective and a boatload of other rifles and pistols that need shooting too. Well maybe if I was to add one of those War Hammers from Wicked?