Shoebox Parts!!!!

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    Greasemagnet1
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    The shoebox is a great compressor. In one of my post I said I bought an f10, I was wrong , I bought an F8 and am glad I have it. I stand by my responses that he has turned his back on us because , I bought an F8 for $1100. A few years ago and now that he is not able to gouge his customers on the price of a complete unit ( thanks to the Chinese) now he is trying to gouge us on the price of parts. 

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    hitech
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    True, I do agree about the parts prices, but I guess he has to do whatever it takes to keep his business.  I guess like everyone else, I just have to grin and bear it and pay the price for parts and hope to keep mine running for a long time.

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    Humdinger
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    We owe Tom Kaye a debt of gratitude.   He was the visionary who first introduced a hobbyist 4500 psi compressor within the budget PCP and paintball enthusiasts.  A decade ago the first Shoebox chain driven model was priced at $300 with no frills. It evolved into the belt driven Shoebox Max for $500 with fan cooling and some internal upgrades.  It further evolved into the F8 with pressure adjustable shutoff for $1,000 and then the F10 for $1,200.   

    The Chinese saw the potential market and started offering very cheaply made but faster filling compressors which undercut the Shoebox and forced them to lower prices to remain moderately competitive.  The F10 was lowered to $500 for several years before Shoebox recently decided to cease manufacturing.

    The issue as I see it is that Shoebox was basically a small scale "garage" manufacturer.  Considering the components inside of a Shoebox, it is an intelligent, simple to repair, durable, slow filing compressor which is much more durable than a Chinese Yong Heng class of compressor.  However, the problem is that it didn't remain competitive price wise because of it's small scale manufacturing model can't compete with a mass production factory.  Shobox should license its technology to a manufacturer which can mass produce Shoeboxes to bring the manufacturing costs down to a level so an F10 can be sold profitably for $350.  There is a market for these compressors if the manufacturing cost can be brought in line with the actual cost of the the components inside.   It's an excellent booster compressor.  A garage manufacturer can't compete with China by selling a compressor at 2.5 times it's faster filling competition.  JMHO.

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    AirRanger
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    Totally agree Humdinger how can anyone in their right mind think Tom was gonna outlast the shrewd underhanded business tactics of the Chinese? Tom sold those units at a fair price for all those years and when he had to raise prices because all us airgunners turned our backs  on him by buying all this Chinese junk he could no longer afford to continue building these and selling them for next to nothing. This is what happens to USA businesses when you decide to pinch a few pennies and outsource outside the country.

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    Greasemagnet1
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    Tom sold the F10 for $500. For years  beause he was forced to. When he was asking $1200. for the F10 it was straight up greed. If he was asking a more moderate amount my guess is we ( as airgunners ) wouldn't look to the chinese for a more reasonable price. We all know the chinese sacrifice quality to sell at a more competitive price. I for one am glad to buy American any chance I get and the quality of Tom's product and service is first rate, but I don't like being taken advantage of because someone is the only game in town.  

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    Skydivingmiami
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    Do you guys recommend getting spare hardened pistons also? 

    I got the seal kit and a spare belt. Not sure what else is needed… 

    Would the pistons ever break or wear out?

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    alex2865
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    I dought it. But would get the 45 dollar o ring kit

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    hitech
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    Skydivingmiami, I wouldn't worry about getting the harden pistons as spares, the newer F10 have harden pistons and they should last pretty much forever.  The older units did not have the harden pistons and they still lasted a very long time.  The latest units are somewhat over-built, I think o-ring kits, spacers, and a belt, and you are set for a loooonngg time.  I think the only way you'd have an issue with the pistons in the F10 is if you didn't lube correctly for a long time or the piston rods are not correctly aligned, that is something you catch early on.  Lightly lube as Tom K suggests and enjoy.  I love mine.

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    Skydivingmiami
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    Thank you hitech. I got the 45 dollar o ring kit with spacers. So I should be good to go.

     

     

    Do you guys recommend any type of filter to keep out moisture? Something simple but effective? 

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    Skydivingmiami

    Thank you hitech. I got the 45 dollar o ring kit with spacers. So I should be good to go.

     

     

    Do you guys recommend any type of filter to keep out moisture? Something simple but effective? 

    I use one of these between my CAT compressor and Shoebox. Cheap, renewable and effective

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-8-Compressed-Air-In-Line-Filter-Desiccant-Dryer-Moisture-Water-Separator-New/252415714251?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

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    hitech
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    I use the cheapo $7 inline desiccant filters from HF.  I also bought a quart of desiccant, should last a long while.  The HF filters are cheap, but they do work and I get about 3-4 fills out of my Guppy before I have to change the desiccant out.  However, BTB's filter, the one he has listed, is probably much better and would go a lot longer between replacing the desiccant.

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    dreamweaver
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    I have an incoming 5 micron filter then the big Wilkerson dryer followed by another 5 micron filter/regulator.  I dry the beads a couple times a year in the oven.  Seems to do a nice job of removing moisture.

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    Skydivingmiami
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    Thanks guys.  I just ordered one of those dessicant filter . Hopefully it helps with any moisture in the air. 

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