See All Open Sights
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I'm not sure if we are allowed to cross post from other forums, but there is a thread in AirgunWarriors that covers this.....
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I tried a red dot reflex sight and just could not achieve the pinpoint accuracy needed with a pellet rifle due to the low energy levels. Pellet placement is key and is an exact science in this sport. I would think that would be the issue with this sight.
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I have one on my Ocelot pistol. I like it. Had a few different dot sights on it and found that I prefer the See-All. Honestly I would skip it on the rifle and use a scope.
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I don't shoot or hunt with a scope. Never have never will. I've been hunting for over 50 years and have never taken game over maybe 60 yards with PB's or a pellet rifle. Really how often do you shoot something over fifty yard away. Most times your quarry is even closer.
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This question has been talked about on this sight to. Check the "search" function.
Shooting a single shot pistol, "off hand", I've been able to get .177 pellets almost into a quarter sized hole at about 17 yards (my range) with a SeeAll (delta) sight.
But...I can get .177 pellets into less than a dime sized hole with a Delta Pro, red dot sight using a very similar gun, and still "off hand" shooting.
Again...but... I am still practicing, and think I can get better. It is a different way of aiming.
If you wear glasses (as I do), it IS easier to aim with than with standard iron sights. Despite to the above poster (that probably hasn't tried a SeeAll) it is an "improvement" over iron sights. I've been shooting a long time, I know the difference. The difference is that it's like using a 600mm camera lens with no stabilization..! Even though the sight is small/short, it is difficult to keep steady, at least in my 69 year old hands and eyes. But again, with a red dot sight, no problem..!?
I refuse to give it up though. I need to get used to using it (and better shooting) for my own satisfaction.
Mike
Shooting a single shot pistol, "off hand", I've been able to get .177 pellets almost into a quarter sized hole at about 17 yards (my range) with a SeeAll (delta) sight.
But...I can get .177 pellets into less than a dime sized hole with a Delta Pro, red dot sight using a very similar gun, and still "off hand" shooting.
Again...but... I am still practicing, and think I can get better. It is a different way of aiming.
If you wear glasses (as I do), it IS easier to aim with than with standard iron sights. Despite to the above poster (that probably hasn't tried a SeeAll) it is an "improvement" over iron sights. I've been shooting a long time, I know the difference. The difference is that it's like using a 600mm camera lens with no stabilization..! Even though the sight is small/short, it is difficult to keep steady, at least in my 69 year old hands and eyes. But again, with a red dot sight, no problem..!?
I refuse to give it up though. I need to get used to using it (and better shooting) for my own satisfaction.
Mike
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I doubt the above poster has ever used a good peep sight system. (back at you)
Peep sights aren't open "iron" sights. They are way more precise. Also, with the right aperture and ring, they will barely obstruct your field of vision. Peep sights have been used and continue to be used on combat arms for many reasons- ultimately quick, accurate target acquisition. You just have to develop and settle upon a sight picture that works for you and stick to it. Williams makes some good stuff that is useful to airgunners. I've found the front blades on airguns to be the common limiting factor. I've even gone so far as to replace a front globe sight with a winged patridge sight from an M1 Carbine. The barrel diameters matched but I had to bend the barrel because the M1 sight has a low line of sight over the barrel.
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Correct, and I have no intention of machine my springer pistol to accept any open (other than stock) OR peep sight..! Plus...I seriously doubt there is enough material to install your wonderful peep sight in the first place.
In the second place, just to let you know, yes, I have used peep sights on older rifles years back when I did a lot of shooting of center fire guns (and yea .22's). OLD Technology, period.
And now that I...like many my age, are required to wear spectacles for daily life. The SeeAll while NOT as easy to use as a good red dot sight. BUT...it requires no battery (or solar cell), getting it wet does zero harm, has been tested at 10ft. drops with no harm OR point of aim change.
Try dropping your peep sight from 10ft., or more likely, adult shoulder height, sight down, see how the little ring wrinkles when the shield folds down onto it..!
Mossonarock...You aren't going to convince me that I don't like the SeeAll sight..! If YOU don't like it, that just fine...don't use it..!
Mike
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Still working and holding up well on my Beeman P1.
Starting to be more accurate with it too.
Mike
Starting to be more accurate with it too.
Mike
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I have a peep sight on my Marlin .22 have owned it since I was 12. I'm 58. I've had experience with a peep sight.
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So I finally decided that I would keep the Seeall on my Hatsan 135 .30 after shooting it last time I noticed the screws had loosened I little. I cleaned and loctited them. Today I went out and shot it without any resighting. Here are the results from 25ft and 30 yards. The shots were taken in quick succession.
Tomorrow I will take it out for a fine tune on the sight.
After you figure out this thing it's pretty sweet. its different in the fact it covers some of the target. But get the tip of the triangle on your target and shoot your going to hit it. Keep both you eyes open.
I do like it and it's a good alternative to iron sights. Especially for quick target acquisition.
5 shots at 25ft
3 shots at 30 yard a dime would cover
So I finally decided that I would keep the Seeall on my Hatsan 135 .30 after shooting it last time I noticed the screws had loosened I little. I cleaned and loctited them. Today I went out and shot it without any resighting. Here are the results from 25ft and 30 yards. The shots were taken in quick succession.
Tomorrow I will take it out for a fine tune on the sight.
After you figure out this thing it's pretty sweet. its different in the fact it covers some of the target. But get the tip of the triangle on your target and shoot your going to hit it. Keep both you eyes open.
I do like it and it's a good alternative to iron sights. Especially for quick target acquisition.
5 shots at 25ft
3 shots at 30 yard a dime would cover
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Today I shot my Hatsan 135 .30. It is fitted with the SeeAll Mk1 sight. Here is my first six from 30+ yards.
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