Russia's answer to the Impact not really doing it for me…

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    zebra
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    I found this unusual-looking air gun online while searching for something else entirely:

    Now…. my Russian is not nearly as good as my Mongolian but… using the universal language of looking at the pics and taking a guess, I concluded that it was a PCP bottle bullpup with caliber switching capability. 

    I have no idea if this is a one-off custom job or a production air rifle currently on sale in Russia but I thought it looked interesting enough to share.

    While it has looks only a mother could love, the part I thought was noteworthy was the fact that the scope rail is attached to the barrel. In other words, you can keep a scope ready and zeroed with each barrel which genuinely allows for quick caliber switching. Each one is just ready to go.

    This is seems like a much better design than the Impact system because you have to re-zero the scope if you switch from .30 to 22 which would pretty much make the feature useless to me on a day to day basis because I find zeroing a scope to be a major hassle, so I would rarely (if ever) switch them out. 

    It sure is ugly though. You have to try really hard to make something look so universally unappealing….

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    jamieinmd
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    Are those arrow shafts with the blue and white tape around them ?
     

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    zebra
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    “jamieinmd”Are those arrow shafts with the blue and white tape around them ?
     

    
Not really sure. Everything was in Russian. The way it was presented led me to believe they are different caliber barrels. They showed pics of the caliber switching.

    I really want to know who made it. If it is a custom job made by an enthusiast then they have some serious skills. If it’s a production gun, I’d like to know more about the company and if there are plans to bring it here. 

    I can’t tell for sure but it looks like it might have two bottles.

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    “zebra”I found this unusual-looking air gun online while searching for something else entirely:

    Now…. my Russian is not nearly as good as my Mongolian but… using the universal language of looking at the pics and taking a guess, I concluded that it was a PCP bottle bullpup with caliber switching capability. 

    I have no idea if this is a one-off custom job or a production air rifle currently on sale in Russia but I thought it looked interesting enough to share.

    While it has looks only a mother could love, the part I thought was noteworthy was the fact that the scope rail is attached to the barrel. In other words, you can keep a scope ready and zeroed with each barrel which genuinely allows for quick caliber switching. Each one is just ready to go.

    This is seems like a much better design than the Impact system because you have to re-zero the scope if you switch from .30 to 22 which would pretty much make the feature useless to me on a day to day basis because I find zeroing a scope to be a major hassle, so I would rarely (if ever) switch them out. 

    It sure is ugly though. You have to try really hard to make something look so universally unappealing….

    
That is unless you use 2 different scopes when you change barrels on the impact. Of course it would make sense to have poi shift from the different velocities due to the weight  differences in the pellets! Of course you can play around with all the settings to accommodate,  it who wants to do that?

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    I agree. You would want to set up each caliber for a specific pellet and speed like we would for any airgun. It’s just that if the scope is attached to the barrel assembly for each caliber, it allows for a quick switch. 

    You could get close I guess by just buying two scopes for the Impact too but you would still want to be checking the zero as it’s unlikely that you could mount the scope in exactly the same position each time. 

    I first saw the barrel scope mount on the Steyr HS50 and thought it was a good idea for caliber switching guns if the goal is to make one gun like two.

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    AirgunNiels
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    Very cool!
    a .30cal barrel with a nice scope and maybe a arrow barrel with a red dot.
    they are probably very expensive though.
    ,Niels

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    Alan
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    Go to Google translations, and convert the Russian to English. It isn’t perfect, but close enough.

    https://translate.google.com/#en%7Ces%7C

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    MDiver
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    What would these green, red white buttons be?  Electric?
    Could you give us the original link please.

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    jps2486
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    I would be very reluctant to spend my hard-earned money on a product from a little known source in a foreign country and take a gamble that it is going to be a top notch shooter.  The odds are against you.  Further, the resale value is likely very small.

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    Topcat
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    To be completely honest, that thing is UGLY!!  There isn’t even room for accessories to mount on it. 

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    DEN54
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    Hi guys.
    This gun can shoot silently 9mm bullet.
    Speed control microcontroller.

    http://www.pcpspb.ru/1/14/BLACK.jpg

    [IMG]http://www.pcpspb.ru/1/14/BLACK.jpg [/IMG]

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    DEN54
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    Name gun – Unielektra 2.  

    • The output power of 180 joules.5,3g  9mm bullet. Speed 850-900 fps.  silent shot.  18 shot.

    ​video
    http://www.pcpspb.ru/1/23.htm  

    [URL=http://www.pcpspb.ru/1/23.htm%5D [IMG WIDTH=768,HEIGHT=410,ALT=”click for enlarge 768 X 410 Kb picture”][/IMG] [/URL]

     

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    DEN54
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    “MDiver” Electric?

     

    
yes 
    http://www.pcpspb.ru/1/15/board.jpg
    We produce electronic rifles since 2007.
    Indicators for different speeds of bullets
    .22  —– .35 
    m/s
    http://i2.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/013155/13155053.jpg

    Our product is superior to almost double Impact. 
    It is also the quietest in the large caliber.
    You can change the settings quickly and barrels, while maintaining accuracy.

    http://forum.guns.ru/forummessage/30/1683506.html

    VIDEO sound shot 9mm,  850 FPS, bullet 5.3g JSB

     

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    fe7565
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    Interesting:  electronically auto-loading and firing PCP from the same guy.   

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    zebra
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    I’m glad it was identified as I don’t think I would have been able to find it again if I tried.

    It sounds interesting and cool. I want one! I think it just needs a tactical quadrail hand guard to cover the bottle and the space under the barrel. That’s always the issue with current bottle gun designs. 

    Anyone that likes to see interesting PCP gun designs should take a look at the pics on sites like guns.ru and topguns.ru. 

    I’m not sure why exactly but Russians seem to make far more awesome-looking custom PCP guns than us and the range of bullpups in particular is impressive. Some of their designs look so good they’ll make you consider converting to Russianism (I know that’s not really a thing). 

    I also love  looking at the designs of Senepan who I think are from Indonesia. Definitely worth a look if you like to mod.

     

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    DEN54
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    “fe7565”Interesting:  electronically auto-loading and firing PCP from the same guy.   

     

    
this is my advanced development. It contains the original valve.
    It pneumatic hammer, pneumatic forced bullets drive.
    The original principle of the electronic system. We are now working to 9mm. full-auto. 
    pneumatic hammer weight – 20g. For high accuracy and low recoil.
    More information I can not give the project work.
    The platform will be the same. I hope.

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    zebra
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    “DEN54”

    “fe7565”Interesting:  electronically auto-loading and firing PCP from the same guy.   

     

    
this is my advanced development. It contains the original valve.
    It pneumatic hammer, pneumatic forced bullets drive.
    The original principle of the electronic system. We are now working to 9mm. full-auto. 
    pneumatic hammer weight – 20g. For high accuracy and low recoil.
    More information I can not give the project work.
    The platform will be the same. I hope.

    
Any plans to sell in America?

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    zebra
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    These are some of the other cool custom air guns I saw on the Russian sites while looking for design inspiration:   

     

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    “zebra”
Any plans to sell in America?

    
No plans. The queue of customers in Russia for six months.

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