Royale trigger 1st stage

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mcoulter

mcoulter

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This may sound silly but I recently realized the 1st stage take-up on the Royale trigger does not return to its original position on its own.

Once you take up the 1st stage and hit the initial resistance on the 2nd stage, if you take your finger off the trigger nothing happens. The trigger stays just where it is. I think all my other (non FX) rifles have a 1st stage that is under spring tension and will return to their original location. Can other Royale owners comment on this and the behavior of their 1st stage?

I have not made any trigger adjustments - only hammer spring adjustments on this rifle. For clarity here is a photo of my trigger:

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Turn the biggest of the set screws a wee bit in clockwise direction and your problem is over.
The sear catches on the slightest chamfer which will develop after some use, that's why the spring can't overcome the pressure needed to reset the trigger.
By giving the set screw a slight turn, the sear will not reach the chamfer, and is able to reset.
(I'm talking about the set screw with the spring loaded ball. Don't turn more than necessary, or your trigger will develop creep.)
 
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"AirGunShooter"My Royale 400 and Independence, plus my brother's Royale 400 are and always have been as the OP noted. We just push the trigger back forward if we need to rest the first stage. After several thousand rounds through the rifle, you don't even think twice about it.
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Interesting. In my excitement of getting the gun I truly could not tell you if there was a "spring" to the 1st stage or not... I don't mind the way is it without this spring-feel, but with some recent posts about triggers I really wasn't sure if this was the way it was supposed to be or not.
 
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I did some work on the trigger spring of each rifle; this along with a special lube and I turned the stock FX trigger into the finest trigger I have ever used. Super light, great feel, with a very noticeable stop at the end of the first stage; followed by a crisp break of the second stage. And yes, both my Royale 400 and my Independence require I push the trigger back if I want to reset the first stage. It is truly not that big of a deal, especially considering how great the trigger feels on each rifle. 
 
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"Menttaliist"If you want it as light as possible for br shooting and you dont want do deal with the first stage not returning remember you can remove the first stage ;) The trigger will become superlight
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Hey Manuel, very true, but certainly not advisable :)
By doing this, the trigger will become very dangerous, and will fire when you fart.
The safe sear engagement is gone then, and the sear will hang on a only 0.1mm or even shorter distance. Even with the safety on, it will be a ticking timebomb waiting to go off without any notice, or it can develop difficulties when cocking. (Sear does not catch) If you bump it, the gun likely will fire.
Therefore, for safety reasons, leave the first stage intact with any FX trigger. The more first stage travel a FX trigger has, the safer it is.
 
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"weatherby"
"Menttaliist"If you want it as light as possible for br shooting and you dont want do deal with the first stage not returning remember you can remove the first stage ;) The trigger will become superlight
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Hey Manuel, very true, but certainly not advisable :)
By doing this, the trigger will become very dangerous, and will fire when you fart.
The safe sear engagement is gone then, and the sear will hang on a only 0.1mm or even shorter distance. Even with the safety on, it will be a ticking timebomb waiting to go off without any notice, or it can develop difficulties when cocking. (Sear does not catch) If you bump it, the gun likely will fire.
Therefore, for safety reasons, leave the first stage intact with any FX trigger. The more first stage travel a FX trigger has, the safer it is.
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Hi Gijs, thanks for the advice then, i'll keep it in mind
 
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