Replacement buttpad for HW55? Ideas?

My HW55 has a non-original buttpad on it, likely off a different HW55 with a different stock and doesn't fit well. Looking for ideas on something that may be a decent replacement. 

Would like to have something still curved. The adjustables like Morgan and Bisley sound good, as long as I can grind them to fit properly. My old Venom HW77K has an ancient adjustable pad that would likely work great. I think it's an old Bisley, but the new ones look a little different. 

Just looking for some ideas. I may just make one if nothing turns up. Thanks guys

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Thumper,

Here is a picture of an uncut Bisley adjustable butt pad laying on the butt of my HW55T. The base plate has just enough aluminum to cover the wood but the rubber pad comes up a little short at the toe. Depending on your taste that may or may not bother you. I've seen some high end adjustable pads that don't even come this close. Because the contour of the 55T at the butt is rather large, you don't have a lot of room to move the base plate around until you like how it fits. The top screw hole in the base plate may not line up with the top screw hole drilled in the stock and your only option will be to plug the hole in the stock and re-drill it to match the location of the hole in the Bisley base plate (I wish they'd provide these base plates without holes so we could drill them where we want them).

I've installed these pads on 5 or 6 of my air rifles. I try to match the top hole in the base plate to the top hole factory drilled in the stock. In every case the bottom hole in the base plate ends up being too low, i.e. too close to the toe of the stock, which could result in the stock cracking if you aren't very careful to use a short screw and drill a hole in the wood that matches the screw size precisely. Instead I drill a new hole in the bottom of the base plate to match the factory drilled screw hole in the toe of the stock This isn't a big deal as the pad always hides the empty factory hole left in the base plate (unless you adjust the pad UPWARD).

The Bisley pad will increase your LOP about 5/8 of an inch over the factory pad.

IMO an adjustable butt pad looks cool on any gun and in 90% of the cases improves the fit and feel FOR ME when I shoulder the gun. HOWEVER, the HW55T is a wonderful fit just the way it is and for me there would be no advantage to adding an adjustable pad. The effort to fit one would not be worth the return.

If you do install a new pad, any pad, make sure to drill the required holes and secure the pad to the stock before you do anything else. Then, following the contour of the stock, scribe a line around the pad to grind to (I use the back of the tip of a very sharp knife). You'll end up installing, checking, removing and grinding, installing, checking, removing and grinding. By drilling your holes first you assure that the pad will go on exactly the same each time. If you just hold the pad in place throughout this process THEN drill holes, the drill bit WILL wander and your perfectly fitting pad will not fit perfectly anymore.

I would speculate that your pad has pulled away from the toe of your stock because someone tightened the bottom screw too tight and cracked the inner hard plastic-like "back bone" of the pad (bottom picture). The screws are typically of the counter sink design (tapered under the head) and over tightening will crack this component. I had one that was pulled away slightly and after removing the pad and discovering the problem I was able to open the crack up enough to get Super Glue in it then secured the pad between two pieces of wood with a clamp so the pad flattened while the glue cured. Afterwards I reinstalled the pad with LIGHT screw pressure and you wouldn't know it was ever cracked.

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Wow! Thanks for the in-depth explanation. That may give me the courage to install one on my HW95. I especially liked your advice to screw the base plate on first thing, to ensure you get a repeatable location. 

However, if there's too much slop between the screw stem and the the hole in the butt plate, or if you want absolute positive location, you can add some 1/4" hardwood dowels as locating pins. Just drill a couple of 1/4" holes through the butt plate. Mount the plate on the stock, and drill an inch or so into the stock. Remove the plate, apply glue to the holes, drive in the dowels and let dry. After drying, trim and sand the dowels to fit.

Dowels are darn good for locating mating parts. For the adventurous, you could even make your own exotic hardwood dowels.

Or you could use 6d (6 penny) nails. They're about .12" in diameter. Drill 1/8" (.125) holes through the base plate. That gives you about .005" nail clearance. Screw the plate on per your instructions. Drill smaller 3/16" (.187) pilot holes into the wood, through the base plate holes, perhaps 3/4" deep. That provides a .040" interference fit with the nails,.
 
I have a very old 55DST with this recoil pad. Not sure where it came from though, but it fits nicely. 
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Fun thread! Learning a lot here...

Kingfisher, the solid aluminum buttplate is the correct OEM one for early HW 55's. And, PLEASE TELL US MORE about that beautiful double-set-trigger example, which is the nicest one I've ever seen!

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Hope I can jump in here and ask if anyone by chance has a 55 stock they would be willing to part with? I have a 55 that someone pieced out the back part of the stock for some reason. I spoke with one wood worker who gave me some ideas but pretty sure my wood working skills wouldn't cover the repair..basically 2" or so removed from the back part. Elastic band in the picture is covering the missing part. there is wood under the elastic.. Could try to piece something in there and glue it up but would need shaping etc. The wood worker suggested a completely different wood in maybe a different stain color as an artistic option. Wasn't opposed, just not skilled enough lol.

Kingfisher is that a spare laying there?????? 😀

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Mike

That stock is a copy by Steve Corcoran. I bought the unit from a fellow member a while back as a project. Needs some TLC.

I wish I had more information on it to share, but I don't. However, when it's all done I will post it. I'm sending it to Scott Blair for a complete overhaul. He will turn it into the beautiful rifle it was intended to be. 

In so far as the original stock, I think it may be cracked. It's very rough, but I believe it can be rescued. 
 
Mike

That stock is a copy by Steve Corcoran. I bought the unit from a fellow member a while back as a project. Needs some TLC.

I wish I had more information on it to share, but I don't. However, when it's all done I will post it. I'm sending it to Scott Blair for a complete overhaul. He will turn it into the beautiful rifle it was intended to be. 

In so far as the original stock, I think it may be cracked. It's very rough, but I believe it can be rescued. 

BTW, thanks for chiming in on it. I didn't know that the pad was original. It has a weird front site too. Any ideas on that?
 
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Mike

That stock is a copy by Steve Corcoran. I bought the unit from a fellow member a while back as a project. Needs some TLC.

I wish I had more information on it to share, but I don't. However, when it's all done I will post it. I'm sending it to Scott Blair for a complete overhaul. He will turn it into the beautiful rifle it was intended to be. 

In so far as the original stock, I think it may be cracked. It's very rough, but I believe it can be rescued. 

BTW, thanks for chiming in on it. I didn't know that the pad was original. It has a weird front site too. Any ideas on that?