Regulated vs Unregulated

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If you keep your unregulated rifle within the "sweet spot" of its pressure range, you will not notice any practical difference when compared to a regulated rifle. And, you will enjoy the advantage of one less variable and source of maintenance issues. The regulated rifle will give you more shots within the optimum accuracy level of the rifle. Whether or not that makes any practical difference depends on your use. An example, if you are a target shooter and need a certain minimum number of shots to complete a match, a regulated rifle might give you that, and an unregulated one might not, just depends on all the variables involved. 
 
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I agree with the others. Regulators are not needed, It's personal preference. I like regulators so I don't have to watch the sweet spot and miss shots as the pressure drops. All my long guns now have regulators, as I installed one in the Marauder about 2 years ago.

You can also look at it this way. If you don't want a regulator, RussBear (won EBR a couple years ago) builds his gun around a large tank. so in comparison, before I installed the regulator in my Marauder, it has a 215 CC air tube. I could get about 25 to 30 shots in the sweet spot. Some shots were low on the front end of the string, some were high in the middle, then the pressure fell off and shots went low again. Pretty standard.

RussBear builds guns with very large tanks, so his sweet spot might 100 shots or more. Don't know the size of his tanks, but the original gun he intended to use a couple years ago didn't qualify for EBR because the tank was too large. I think he had to come down to a 600 CC tank or something like that. He uses the size of the tank as his regulator. It does have some advantages, but that's a long discussion. In effect his entire tank becomes the air plenum.

Since I like smaller tanks, and like consistent shots beginning to end (within maybe 1% or 2% at the muzzle) I use regulated guns. Just my preference. for me it removes one variable.

Just random thoughts and my opinion.


 
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building my airgun 'setup' over the past year or so ive wanted alot of things to complete my option set i guess you could say .. one thing i dont feel the need for is a regulated gun, nothing against it, its just my shooting habits tend to be low shot count .. i dont sit all day burning up tins of pellets, if i did though a reg would be a no brainer ...
 
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It really depends I think on the particular rifle and what you're doing with it. If you are a competition shooter I can see you wanting it if you're more a hunter and shooting for fun I can see it being less important. I have a huma for my Kral bottle guns that I haven't installed yet since I want to some to see how they perform without it (which has been fine so far) and then I may give it a try. I am planning on buying a regged Mega II since I want to use that for a field target gun and more target shooting in general. While not needed per se they can be very helpful in certain situtations.
 
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Regulated guns are the only reason we can get 100+ shots on 4500 psi airguns. I don't see myself ever owning a non-regulated air rifle ever again.
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I feel the same way Chris does. I've had my fair share of non regulated and won't go that route ever again. I find having a regulated gun is more consistent and that's what I'm looking for.
 
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I will say that when I regulated the Marauder, I tuned for shot count. Throws an 18 grain pellet at about 850fps, 50 shots per fill now instead of maybe 30. Regulator gave more shots, but it took a lot of work to get there. Lots of help from members of the forum got me over the hump (and lots and lots of compressed air). Another vote for regulators, efficiency, you can tune with a regulator for higher efficiency (in my opinion) easier than a non-regulated gun.
 
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I can break a peanut butter sandwich. The fewer nobs and dials to tempt me, the better. FWIW my unregulated 500cc 3600 psi/250 bar gun has 100+ shots within an acceptable ES of 16 and SD of 3... and 65+ shots with ES less than 8 fps and SD of 1 fps.

Some guys like to have all the kool toys on the gun. I just want the gun to shoot. And it shoots better than I can. The tool is far better than the fool, as is often the case for me.
 
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If the condor is for close range...then you don't needed..but if you are planning to shoot things accurately 100y + is more enjoyable when you could almost tell were the next shot will land .. I only use condors in high power externally regulated...I would never waist my time..trying to perfect a airforce platform making it do something that is not designed to do..by the time you are done you could have purchased other rifle last week there was a .22 taipan standard $900 .. whaaaaaat ... airforce rifle sheap $475 shipped regulator + plenum $200 I piece hammer $75 wocguard a must ..$75 grip $50 picatiny rail $20 short carbon bottle $140 ..cocking knob $20 ...do the math..almost 1,100..in a gun that after all that you be lucky to get $600 ...my 2 fully custom condor will go with me to the grave..no body will pay me what they have cost..at least I knew that before I started..






 
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+1 on what every said about regulated guns. However, if you spend some time with unregulated guns a nice shot string is obtainable. This shot string from my condor ss .25 with jsb 25.4.
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 I own both and have not had any issues with my regulated guns. I also own a Daystate with the Harper Slingshot and it’s as close to a reg you can get in my opinion. It gets 60 shots at 28 ft lbs in .22 with an extreme spread of 20. 


I go to extremes to make sure my air is dry. I believe most reg problems come from moisture.
 
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I have both unregulated and regulated. I enjoy shooting both but I pick up the unregulated more often because it is smaller and easier to hold free standing. I use the Marauder Pistol/Carbine to shoot squirrels, other pests and target 30 yards and closer. It is a non-modified8o air gun that I have tuned for 24 shots, averaging 687fps and 14.1fpe with JSB 13.43 RS pellets. If I shoot benchrest targets at 30yds, I use the single shot tray.

My regulated gun is a Brocock Bantam Sniper HR in 25cal. Now that I am retired I will go to the range more often to shoot the Bantam at 50 and 100 YDs. I have the regulator at 145 but I will have to look up my fps. Been having trouble getting pellets and last I had it out the Air Arm 25.39 Diablo were the most accurate.

I am a casual shooter and enjoy shooting both.

Cheers C
 
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I have a few of both also and love them equally but they are obviously a little different.

Regulated: Much easier to tune, more shots per fill and more power usually.

Unregulated: More consistent, zero POI shift or any need to scrub first few shots, simpler and smaller



For my little back yard pesting and target shooting I prefer unregulated because I don't worry about the first shot. When house sparrow appears there is little time so scrub a shot isn't always possible. I don't mind a few less shots per fill, I have a hand pump nearby so it's super easy. My FX guns are uber adjustable so they are more lego sets, also the impact can sling slugs like nobody's business. 


 
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