Watch & Discuss the Airforce Condor SS!

I've always preferred accuracy over power, but this gun is just soo powerful that I think it would be a very nice medium game gun. Also, I think a 70fpe .22 will be better than a 70fpe .25 because as one of Matt's recent videos showed, due to more weight with a smaller caliber pellet you have a better BC which could make this a very good gun in the field against coyotes and pigs.
 
"vegasjim"Would LOVE to have this as my first PCP! - Have only a year or so experience with a precision air rifle and wished I had found this sport many years ago. I really enjoy the accuracy of these guns, and that I can enjoy shooting any day I wish just stepping out to the back yard. My pride and joy is the Beeman R7 spring piston. It is a low powered .177, but more than enough to give great grouping within the 80 foot range I have set up. And have brought down pesky pigeons with good kill shots out to 50 yards. I shoot a fairly heavy pellet for great accuracy! Slow 'fps', but still good 'fpe' for small game. Have spent a fair amount on different pellets, but that hunt for the most accurate is part of the fun and enjoyment. Being an old Veteran living on Social Security puts a limit on spending, so punching paper with pellets is a very cheap way to a lot of enjoyment for me.
- Many Thanks to you Steve, and several others out there who take the time to put out these great ,informative video's

Thank you. It's a privilege. Steve
 
"Ishkatan"I am a bit confused - I thought air guns had a regulator so it did not matter how much air you have in the tank/bottle. As long as your gauge is in the green it should shoot with the same pressure behind the pellet.

Are these rifled?

I'm also wondering if you could use a really heavy pellet / bullet... like take a .22 bullet fired at high power... ?

Some have regulators and some don't.

Try to picture all of that air pressure holding a spring valve shut. When your bottle is full of air, the hammer striking the valve opens it very little due to all the air pressure holding it shut. As you shoot the gun down and the bottle drains towards half pressure, there is much less force on the valve holding it shut so when the hammer strikes it, it actually stays open longer, lets more air through, and increases velocity. Then as the bottle runs out of air, it looses its ability to force air past the valve and once again velocity drops off. This is where the shot "curve" comes from as shared in most of my vids. Most guys will experiment to find the sweet spot at the top of the curve where power is at it's highest and shot to shot consistency is at its tightest. Rarely do these sweet spots coincide with any colored markings on a pressure gauge.

A regulator flattens and elongates this curve at the expense of some power. It also adds cost and can be one more thing to go keep in adjustment & go wrong.


Steve

 
My .25 cal Condor SS is the YinYang of airguns; extremely accurate, hole on hole up to 30 yards with one flier out of 10 (always). At 50 its well within 1.5 inches with that pesky flier outlying somewhere. At close range, 7 yards in, its important to know the mill dot holdover required because the scope has to be mounted quite high on the rail for proper cheek weld and eye relief. However, its a great shooter at 75 too 100 yards with a heavy pellet behaving predictably, even in wind. Lightweight, easy to shoulder, but best off my bipod. Aluminum frame is adaptable with the top and bottom rail, which makes you want to load it up with accessories. But the aluminum rail is soft and a bit fragile. Make sure everything fits well the first time and remains tight!. It infinitely adjustable but not, as spring tension and friction continuously effect power and accuracy. Its one of the hardest hitting airguns on the market and well priced. Definitely take it hog hunting but am constantly reminded that the single shot action requires on shot one kill (something we should all be doing anyway).

Your review was thorough and well done, and the pellets you tested were a good representation of FPS, KE, and expected accuracy for my experience with the Condor SS. Oh, one more thin regarding sound... it really is backyard friendly!

My guess 634
 
This is a charming platform that is light weight and very easy take down to the last grub screw that has power in truck loads, it was not meant to be a paper puncher but with the additions like the super sear and a regulator this can be a bench-rest type easily.it inherently suffers from barrel that rely on two barrel bushings sitting inside a not so rigid aluminum frame that may not provide the industrial strength lock-down required for the barrel to stay put or exhibit consistent harmonics.the other one is the valve mechanism that has many things to go wrong like the friction of the valve stem is not uniform shot to shot and it may not return back to same position after each shot the other being loose top hat