Thought I would post this in the BR section.
Different lots at 17.5yds 13.4’s, one lot shows promise? Out of 4
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Different lots at 17.5yds 13.4’s, one lot shows promise? Out of 4
RAW TM-1000.177
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Yup .. for what ever reason when everything gels ya get hole in hole if shooters on point too !!
Looks great !! Tho 17.5 yards is awfully close for such testing IMO.
just as an FYI, there are many guns and pellet combos that will & can do that consistently up close .... Stretched out to ACTUAL shot distances in BR of 25 & 50 meters is where we say the rubber meets the road.
While interesting, not that conclusive either IMO.
Looks great !! Tho 17.5 yards is awfully close for such testing IMO.
just as an FYI, there are many guns and pellet combos that will & can do that consistently up close .... Stretched out to ACTUAL shot distances in BR of 25 & 50 meters is where we say the rubber meets the road.
While interesting, not that conclusive either IMO.
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Motorhead, you are correct, just trying to see if one warrants any further testing out to 25m or even 50yds.
But when it’s 25deg. Outside plus 10+ wind, I’ll play inside!,TRIGGER TIME!
My BM will print tighter, so it’s my benchmark.
But when it’s 25deg. Outside plus 10+ wind, I’ll play inside!,TRIGGER TIME!
My BM will print tighter, so it’s my benchmark.
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^^^^^^^what Scott said.
minimum starting point for this kind of test should be 28 yards or 25 meters. my 1701, 1720, pp700 can do that at 20 yards with crosman pointed and HP pellets, stretched out to 30 meters then the HP pellets start to fall apart and pointed pellets are barely holding on. 50 meter or 56 yards is where men are separated from the boys like Scott said, even if my guns can shoot that well at 50, I can’t.
btw that looks awesome, love that stock!
minimum starting point for this kind of test should be 28 yards or 25 meters. my 1701, 1720, pp700 can do that at 20 yards with crosman pointed and HP pellets, stretched out to 30 meters then the HP pellets start to fall apart and pointed pellets are barely holding on. 50 meter or 56 yards is where men are separated from the boys like Scott said, even if my guns can shoot that well at 50, I can’t.
btw that looks awesome, love that stock!
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I compete in USARB 25m, And rarely 50 yds in HV class.
I only posted these to show what I’m looking to accomplish possible lots to further test.
I realize it’s not 25m! but if I don’t take out as many environmental factors as possible?, this will allow me then have a place to start outside testing in the spring.
This is exactly what I have done for two winter’s for the BM and has worked well. When and if I get a pellet to shoot as well as The BM, then I have a good Idea!
Was actually hoping someone would ask what my procedure or process or what I was attempting to learn from this?
I only posted these to show what I’m looking to accomplish possible lots to further test.
I realize it’s not 25m! but if I don’t take out as many environmental factors as possible?, this will allow me then have a place to start outside testing in the spring.
This is exactly what I have done for two winter’s for the BM and has worked well. When and if I get a pellet to shoot as well as The BM, then I have a good Idea!
Was actually hoping someone would ask what my procedure or process or what I was attempting to learn from this?
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My route matches yours.
The original .177 Monsters outshoot the RD version in my Crown, my Steyr 110, and my TM1000.
In .22, it is exactly the opposite, the RDMs outshoot the originals by a fair margin.
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None of my Raw’s with the poly barrels will shoot the RD’s and no one I shoot with have had any luck either!
And I found this out by shooting these a 17.5yds in my basement against a proven pellet at the same time out of the same barrel! Went outside in the spring used same procedure at 25m with flags and confirmed this to be true. (Maybe I should have went straight to 50yds I don’t know?)
I will say this process works well for me ( I can see differences at 17.5yds! )plus gives some relaxation during the winter months.
And I found this out by shooting these a 17.5yds in my basement against a proven pellet at the same time out of the same barrel! Went outside in the spring used same procedure at 25m with flags and confirmed this to be true. (Maybe I should have went straight to 50yds I don’t know?)
I will say this process works well for me ( I can see differences at 17.5yds! )plus gives some relaxation during the winter months.
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My RAW HM1000 poly barrel shoots both Monsters .177 well. The older (non RD) definitely more accurate though. Shoot those at about 820 fps and they are dead on. If I bump up the hammer spring 1/4 to 1/2 turn the RDs will shoot about as well, but I prefer the regular Monsters.
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Same for me, keep the old 13.4’s below about 815fps (that’s for my gun!) keep them at 20ftlbs.
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Ah, I'm not mad after all then! Soren is shooting the old MONSTERS at 940 with great success out of his REDWOLF, I cannot push the RD's even at 850 and get good results, 815 seems really slow LOL!
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Very interesting thanks for that info! I have a prototype 600mm FX CROWN SUPERLITE .177 barrel that I am testing at the moment, it absolutely hates the RD's but is amazing with everything else! FX is installing a new .177 machine around February of this year, the hope is to make a much less fussy .177 liner!
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My .177 Crown barrel is a 500mm STX pellet A that I wound up using around 10 o-rings on the liner to get it to settle down.
Prior to the o-rings it suffered from the wandering POI and random unexplained flier syndrome. That was with weighed, sorted and inspected pellets. Post treatment, it is predictable and consistent. Eventually I will obtain some CF to bond to the liner and do away with the o-ring stack.
The Superlight .177 sounds promising, and I would really like to try one out. I have had nothing but good luck with a 700mm Superlight Crown barrel in .30.
Prior to the o-rings it suffered from the wandering POI and random unexplained flier syndrome. That was with weighed, sorted and inspected pellets. Post treatment, it is predictable and consistent. Eventually I will obtain some CF to bond to the liner and do away with the o-ring stack.
The Superlight .177 sounds promising, and I would really like to try one out. I have had nothing but good luck with a 700mm Superlight Crown barrel in .30.
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A good friend of mine bought a 500mm .177 barrel and converted his .25 crown over. We shot it before Christmas and it was very, very accurate at 30yds with the 13.4 RD's!
He didn't do any adjustments other than turn port size to .177-.22, never chronographed it! no idea how fast they were going? He didn't care either!
He didn't do any adjustments other than turn port size to .177-.22, never chronographed it! no idea how fast they were going? He didn't care either!
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