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    Scott_MCT
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    Well, must say the folks at RAW did an outstanding job with my new 50 fpe .25.  Tried the 28 grn and 33 grn JSB and this thing blows a hole through a 2×4 on the first shot.  Power and accuracy is amazing.  For 50.5 fpe this thing is quiet.  Biggest noise is the pellet impact.  Thanks Martin, great job!

     

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    Dirte
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    Very nice! Any option you wish that you would have added or made different?

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    Scott_MCT
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    As you can see I opted out of the adjustable cheek piece which I do not regret.  I didn’t want the extra weight and I have a big chin 😜  Anyway Martin and his team did a stellar job.  I have an AirWolf, Cricket and Wildcat, but when I un-boxed this beauty I was floored.  Shooting a 50.5 fpe air gun compared to 30-40 fpe is something to behold.  Never thought a 28 grn pellet going almost 950 FPS would be this accurate.

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    Marksman3006
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    Man that is the same rifle Im having built that should be ready any day now. LRT stock and caliber is the same. The only difference is I opted for the camo laminated stock. I hope Im as pleased as you are. I went to a benchrest match today with joewaynerhea and got to both see and shoot a RAW for the first time. They are amazing guns. I had a go with a bm500 .177 caliber and that thing was retarded accurate. Absolute INSANE accuracy. This guy had the polygon barrel. Congrats on your new rifle.

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    farmerjoe99
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    Beautiful rifle Scott! I’ve been dreaming of getting a RAW lately…
    How many shots per fill are you getting and is it regulated?
    How does if feel weight wise and can you post some groups you shot with it?

    I’m thinking I would get a TM1000 in .177 but I’m not sure what stock I would get or
    if I should go with the HM1000 for the magazine… for now I’ll just keep saving. :)

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    Scott_MCT
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    I filled it once to 220 bar.  I’ve put about 3 clips through it and I’m starting to get close (but still above) 150 bar, and yes it is regulated.  Don’t know who makes the barrels for Martin but never thought a 28 grn pellet going 947 FPS would be accurate but it was basically a one holer.  Also tried the 33 grn JSB, they head out the barel at about 825 FPS.   This rifle is a sight to behold.  The workmanship is about as good as it can get, and everything is machined from scratch.  

    Highly recommend RAW.

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    farmerjoe99
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    Hopefully I can try one at my next FT match… everything I here about them says they are top notch with the
    only gripe being weight which depending on the person some like, some don’t.
    and as a plus they are made right here is the US and I’ve even gotten to meet and shoot with one of the machinist’s that builds them!
    Thanks for sharing.

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    “Scott_MCT”

    Well, must say the folks at RAW did an outstanding job with my new 50 fpe .25.  Tried the 28 grn and 33 grn JSB and this thing blows a hole through a 2×4 on the first shot.  Power and accuracy is amazing.  For 50.5 fpe this thing is quiet.  Biggest noise is the pellet impact.  Thanks Martin, great job!

     

    
Looks awesome. The stock coloring is not my taste but I can see it is well made. 

    It looks very stable and easy to shoot. 

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    Scott_MCT
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    Understood on the color, used to be more grey on grey or blue on grey with laminate wood in my younger years.  This red just wore on me on the RAW factory tour video, and once I saw it in person all I can say is it might be an acquired taste but how sweet it is.  Thought this gun would be heavy like my .22 AirWolf, but it is not.  My Wolf has the steel bottle, so maybe that’s what it is?  The receiver is so much larger on the RAW than my Wolf so not sure why the RAW feels lighter.  I’ll drop them on the scale fully dressed with scopes and see what the difference is.

    About the only ding I can give is the RAW mags.  They are ok and functional, but compared to my Cricket, FX, and Wolf it works but doesn’t seem to be on-par with the rest of the package.  Would gladly pay another $100 to have a fully machined medal mag.

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    Dirte
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    “Scott_MCT”
     

    
Is that the standard moderator?

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    Scott_MCT
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    No, I ordered the optional long LCD.

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    AR
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    I guarantee you it’s the carbon fibre bottle that’s keeping the weight down, I would like to see accuracy between the Daystate and RAW as I quite can’t decide between the two companies 

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    Dirte
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    Love these RAW guns. Trying to decide on a .22 or a .25. Shooting very few critters. I would mostly shoot targets and want something that could buck the wind.  I already have a S510 .177 and a FX .22 Royale. Also 350 vs 500 count on pellets. I can easily go through a couple tins in a day but….. It would be worth it to shoot on breezy days.

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    “Scott_MCT”Understood on the color, used to be more grey on grey or blue on grey with laminate wood in my younger years.  This red just wore on me on the RAW factory tour video, and once I saw it in person all I can say is it might be an acquired taste but how sweet it is.  Thought this gun would be heavy like my .22 AirWolf, but it is not.  My Wolf has the steel bottle, so maybe that’s what it is?  The receiver is so much larger on the RAW than my Wolf so not sure why the RAW feels lighter.  I’ll drop them on the scale fully dressed with scopes and see what the difference is.

    About the only ding I can give is the RAW mags.  They are ok and functional, but compared to my Cricket, FX, and Wolf it works but doesn’t seem to be on-par with the rest of the package.  Would gladly pay another $100 to have a fully machined medal mag.

    
It isn’t always the overall weight that makes a rifle feel heavy. It’s the balance which is why shorter guns or bullpups often feel lighter than longer rifles of the same weight. 

    My bet would be that the CF bottle means less weight at the front (which is the worst place to have extra weight) and the extra heavy stock at the back probably does a good job of balancing it with the heavy barrel at the front. That is what is making it feel lighter.

    Either way, I would imagine that most shooting would be from a bench with that gun. For bench rest shooting, the extra weight only helps.

    My taste is very specific with stocks. For the most part I like black on black and stocks made from composites or metal. My issue with wood stocks is that they are almost always disappointing to me on air guns. That being said, I really like a wood stock that is made from a high quality, nicely figured, properly machined and well finished wood. If air guns came with the Indonesian ebony stocks that Ernest posted pics of, I’d buy two. The wood on my Mutant stock is just garbage and getting replaced asap. 

    I think the stocks on RAW and Daystate guns are much higher quality than the average air gun brand though. I like how both brands clearly make a point of using fittings and furniture that is consistent with their price point. The key thing is that you were able to choose something high quality and based on your taste. You can’t always do that with expensive air guns…

    I’m not sure what I would choose if I bought a RAW gun. I’d probably want a traditional Walnut stock and then I would use the pattern to make myself a carbon fiber one for hunting. I’d like to have a go at making one of those wide forearm BR style stocks out of CF at some point. 

     

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    Dirte
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    Pulled the trigger and ordered my LRT .25 in walnut today. Sounds like almost everything including long moderator is standard now. Different barrels are an option. I decided to go with standard rather than the polygon. Now I need to consider a scope. May try something other than the Hawke scope that my other guns have.

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    Scott_MCT
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    Maybe this is something new but Sandra asked if I wanted the standard moderator or long so at least 14 weeks ago there were two options.  Should have everything to complete my Atlas bipod setup today.  For anyone who is ordering or just ordered, if you intend to use a bipod make sure they include the adapter with your rifle otherwise you’ll be ordering it later.  Never realized how expensive an Atlas bipod is…wow.

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    hsnmz
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    I read somewhere that there are two barrel options also. Can anyone pls confirm.

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    Dirte
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    “hsnmz”I read somewhere that there are two barrel options also. Can anyone pls confirm.

    
In .25 he said I could get a polygon barrel also. He said they work better with the Heavy grain pellets if I remember right. I chose the normal cut barrel.

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    Scott_MCT
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    Mine is the normal cut.  Accuracy so far is same between the JSB 28 and 33 grn.

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    kk4iz
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    how far have you tested, 50 -75 yrds. ?????

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