Range Cards vs Ballistic Calculators

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    Matt_Dubber
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    This seems to be a topic that pops up quite often, so I threw together this video to help some fellow shooters. Enjoy!

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    BitFrost
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    Keep up the good work, Matt! This stuff is very helpful, and I’m going to copy your range card setup.
    All the way to the right in the table, there was a picture of the reticle with ranges based on your zero. Is this something you made or can I drag it out of Chairgun somewhere?
    No clue as to what your deepest, darkest secrets are. Not sure if I want to know! :)
    edit: typos due to the touch keyboard on tablet…

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    Matt_Dubber
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    “BitFrost”Keep up the good work, Matt! This stuff is very helpful, and I’m going to copy your range card setup.
    All the way to the right in the table, there was a picture of the reticle with ranges based on your zero. Is this something you made or can I drag it out of Chairgun somewhere?
    No clue as to what your deepest, darkest secrets are. Not sure if I want to know! :)
    edit: typos due to the touch keyboard on tablet…

    
I actually just took a screenshot of the reticle view on Chairgun, cropped the image and imported it into the spreadsheet document…taking DIY to another level!
    I am actually busy uploading part 2 now. I’ll post it once its up.

    Matt

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    Ted
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    Very clear and thorough production Matt.  I know firsthand what a pain in the butt it is to cover all aspects of something like this – not to mention to do it in a timely and interesting manner.  Tip of the hat to you.

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    BitFrost
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    “Matt_Dubber”

    “BitFrost”Keep up the good work, Matt! This stuff is very helpful, and I’m going to copy your range card setup.
    All the way to the right in the table, there was a picture of the reticle with ranges based on your zero. Is this something you made or can I drag it out of Chairgun somewhere?
    No clue as to what your deepest, darkest secrets are. Not sure if I want to know! :)
    edit: typos due to the touch keyboard on tablet…

    
I actually just took a screenshot of the reticle view on Chairgun, cropped the image and imported it into the spreadsheet document…taking DIY to another level!
    I am actually busy uploading part 2 now. I’ll post it once its up.

    Matt

    
I see, easy enough with paint or photoshop:)
    I watched part two just now. I think for myself,  I’ll do the range cards to see how that goes first. But I’ll definitely get the WeatherFlow wind meter. Such a cheap and handy equipment,  how could I not.
    Well done on the tutorial. :)

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    Matt_Dubber
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    Here’s Part 2 for those who missed it:

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    Michael
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    Thanks for putting these together Matt. Very well done, I “bookmarked” this topic for future reference.

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    MattChastain
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    Hey Matt why do you prefer to use strelok pro over Chairgun pro because they seem to do the same exact things but chairgun is more setup for airguns already. Just wondering because i want to get a calculator and saw your video of Strelok.

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    wyshadow
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    One thing I found about using strelok is it takes a few seconds to enter in information in to your phone. By the time you enter everything, your rabbit or bird already took off. I feel that strelok helps you to practice on your gun but in the field hunting, it’s impractical. Seconds and quick reflexes count and knowing how your gun shoots is more important

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    wyshadow
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    The main part where strelok has help me is when I’m out running running errands. When I find myself waiting for something, I try to guess how far an object is then pull out my rangefinder. And yes I carry around my rangefinder almost everywhere I go but my wife forbids it on our dates. After I know my distance I try to guess where I would aim my gun. I then enter all the info in to strelok and see how close I was

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    RC-NL
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    I was wondering, in chairgun you can select a cd curve especially for diabolo pellets.(default setting I believe) In strelok you can only select the g1 curve. I found during real life testing with a chrony that the cd curve used in chairgun is more accurate. (.25 cal jsb’s @ 890 fps) anyone else noticed this? Matt?

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    Matt_Dubber
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    “RC-NL”I was wondering, in chairgun you can select a cd curve especially for diabolo pellets.(default setting I believe) In strelok you can only select the g1 curve. I found during real life testing with a chrony that the cd curve used in chairgun is more accurate. (.25 cal jsb’s @ 890 fps) anyone else noticed this? Matt?

     

    
You can select the “GA” drag function in Strelok. Strelok actually uses the exact drag function that Chairgun uses so they should be exactly the same if you select GA instead of G1. You may only be able to do this in Strelok Pro as opposed to the free version.

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    RC-NL
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    Ah that must be it, I’m using the free version of strelok

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    PaulWI
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    Matt just wondering if there is more than the fact strelok can collect data from the weather flow that you choose using it over ChairGun Mobile?

    Ps thank you for all your work I have enjoyed your videos very much.
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    Matt_Dubber
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    “PaulWI”Matt just wondering if there is more than the fact strelok can collect data from the weather flow that you choose using it over ChairGun Mobile?

    Ps thank you for all your work I have enjoyed your videos very much.
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Hi Paul

    I just way prefer the layout of Strelok and find it easy to navigate. Personal preference, I suppose:) But the fact that it uses your phone’s built in barometer to find the air pressure is also hugely important for me because I hunt between the coast and the mountains.

    Matt

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    PaulWI
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    Ok Matt
    Thank you for explaining the difference between the two.

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    jimreed1948
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    Two very good videos.  When your in the field, how do you have time to calculate this?  By the time I would do that, whatever I was going to shoot at would be gone.

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    huntjunky
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    I have the Chair gun App, ballistic calculator and also the Strelok free version on my phone and I have to agree with Matt.  The Strelok is just more intuitive.  I have debated on upgrading to the Strelok Pro and your video was just the ticket as it answers a lot of questions, that I had to help decide to buy.  Thanks Matt.

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    Matt_Dubber
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    “jimreed1948”Two very good videos.  When your in the field, how do you have time to calculate this?  By the time I would do that, whatever I was going to shoot at would be gone.

    
Two examples of situations where this app made a massive difference for me: 

    1) Shooting pigeons from long range over feeding troughs. I ranged different spots where I knew the pigeons would land, made mental notes of the adjustment needed for each spot and when the birds landed I just had to dial and shoot.

    2) Hunting Rock Hyrax (small mammal…local species) from long range. The advantage of shooting from a distance is that you generally have a little more time. Once I spotted a Hyrax I found that I had more than enough time to do the necessary work on Strelok, and because its more precise than the cards I could be sure of one shot, one kill.

    In a different situation the app may take too long, but it definitely has its place!

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    Jhonny04
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    Hi Matt, I like to watch your videos. I’d appreciate if you can make a video tutorial on strelok pro, because I do not understand a lot and I’m starting in the pcp. Thank you.

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