Quit Screwing Around: Lets see those SPRINGER GROUPS

I’m a lefty. I had to shoot it using my right eye and right handed grip. I couldn’t see the front sight or target very well with my left eye. I had cataract surgery on my right eye a couple of weeks ago and I’m 20/20 with it. I couldn’t shoot right handed without a good rest.....but I was pleased with the groups.

But I’m forward to getting my left eye done!

Well done, I’m a lefty as well. I just tried holding a rifle right handed and looking through the scope with my right eye. Lucky I don’t have to shoot and hunt for food this way as I’d starve to death.

Gary

Being retired on a rainy day can get one into trouble, but occasionally it may work the other way. So on a rainy day with a lot of other things to do and no ambition to do them, I decided to "decompose" two of my spring guns and give them a once over that I felt they needed.

The HW97 started sounding like a grinder when I cocked it and the TX200 hadn't been apart in at least two years. They both called for internal love.

So with screw drivers, wrenches, hammers, Krytox, tar and molly in hand, I dove in. The HW showed signs of galling externally on the piston tube in the front. The rest was good except for need of lubrication. The TX200 just needed refreshing. They both got what they needed, a good internal cleaning and re-lube.

So once back together and after a few warm up shots and scope tweaks, here is the results of 4 shots at 40 yards using JSB 8.4 grain domes.

I shoot with one hand rested and the stock against my shoulder, not with the gun fully rested at both ends, it makes for more of a challenge that way.

That’s fantastic! Better than some PCPs at 40 yards. Nicely done  

After driving back 4 hours from a field target match, I shot this 5 shot group at 55 yards sitting field target position in the wind. 4 shots out of 5 clustered into 3/8” group. Missed my third shot to the left. Used my LGU with Sightron 50x scope. 

Have had some extreme heat here so have not done much precision shooting, just sitting in the shades and plinked some, then yesterday i put a cheap scope on my cheap chinese springer but could not get it to group, some shots was ok, then some trown low and then to the right or left or up, so i removed the scope and tested if it was the gun or scope or both that was bad, but it was the scope, now this gun is not something for a ft match or 25m competition, just a cheap plinker, there is no adjustment for windage, just hight, and she shoots a bit to the right, as the 2 first shots show, but i aimed a bit low and left and managed to get 3 shots almost in the same hole, only at 10m but its only a 4 ft/lbs gun, a fun litle cheap can plinker! 

PhotoBucket tried to blackmail me a couple years ago by charging for what was always a free hosting website. I refused to "pay up" and cancelled the account so all pics I posted on the web sites were "blocked,deleted" (or whatever). I've been using other photo hosting sites since so here are a few of my groups shot sitting on a bucket resting the gun on cross sticks with either my .177 HW95 or .177 Beeman R9.

These are all five shot groups at 25 yards rested. JSb and 1 superdome 177 caliber HW 97 best groups 3/16 center to center. When I’m shooting for groups I like to see all the holes touching. When I see space between the holes it drives me crazy! Lol.  

I don't have any pics, but just ask the folks I beat to win the GTA springer contest if I can shoot.....................( some shots I took right handed, some left handed in a 1 miss you're done contest)



No brag, just facts

I would be outside shooting groups right now but it’s too darn hot! at least it gives the squirrels a false sense of security. Lol

Doing some break in and pellet testing at 20 yards with my new Diana 350 Magnum.

The squares are 1/2”. Pellet is H&N Baracuda Hunter. Group is 5 shots.

Got inspierd by your nice groups Andreas so i grabed my Diana 350 magnum in 177 and went shooting, now if you people never have shot with one let me say this, this is a very accurate and powerful springer, but it is a very hard gun to shoot accurate with, this is not a beginners gun you grab of the shelf and start punching record groups on papper or hunt sparrows at 150m with right away, but when you learn how to handle her, you get rewarded! My go to pellet in this gun is jsb 10.34gr, i also brought the heavier jsb 13,43gr that i have not tried in this gun before, meassured 30 meters and started with the 10.34gr and they performed as good as expected, had a very tight 5 shot group comming but ofcourse the 5th shot was a miss... so i shot another and that was spot on, why is it always like this? Then it was the heavier jsb and they worked very good also, needed to hold a bit higher than 2 mil to be in the center but going to test them trough the chrony to see what power they have 

If I rest my Diana 48 on a sand bag and do my part I get 1 ragged hole at 25 yrds. However she is very hold sensitive which is kind of frustrating. Oh well

Frustrating. Sig .177 asp20 grouping at 25 yards to the right of bullseye, Diana 48 in .22 at bottom left. Trying a lighter pellet in the Diana . Both are 5 shot groups... the 5th for the Diana sunk just below the target paper. the Diana is grouping the 21.14 pellets very well, but these lighter ones not so much. I'll post a pic tomorrow of the Diana using the heavier pellet. 

Diana 48 in .22 using the 21.14 grain barracuda match at 25 yards with minimal wind.

dime can cover 4 of 5 shots in the first two targets, and all 5 in the last. Can often group better than this, but alas this is today...

Beautiful spring afternoon. Those Weihrauch’s are amazing but look at the group from my Trail, first shot a bit off but very happy with result.

Gary

Back 2011, I spent the entire summer with the goal of shooting a 1 inch group at 100 yards from a standard non-JW Springer. I kept getting really close with my tuned HW 77. I would get four that made the grade, and always had one which would blow up the target. Blowing up being defined as an inch and a half group at 100 yards with a springer. So I had an old 300s RT, with a butchered and modified thumbhole stock that I had refinished, And tried to return to original form. I had Gary steel at B and B supply put in a spring that would deliver approximately 9 foot pounds. I wanted higher velocity, but he recommended against it, as it would mess up the Non-recoiling action. I used 3 BKL #7 anti droop mounting blocks to get the scope dead on at 100 yds (talk about cant issues!). I was using a 25X Lupold sniper scope. Finally one morning, magic happened. The first four shots went into a group this size of my pinky nail, I’m sure I was close to peeing my pants when I shot the fifth shot. It landed about a half inch from the group, and I knew I had finally shot a 1 inch group. See below:



It was Not dead calm, there was a mild left to right 5 mile an hour wind. I found that interesting, because Harry had always claimed you needed some wind to shoot tiny groups at ultra long range. 

Here are the results of that entire summer. I did end up shooting a 1 inch group with my HW 77, and I finally let the JW80 come in and play after I had made my goal. I shot a .615 with the .22 barrel, that was WAY easier. Just as an aside, I tried numerous 22 caliber Springers, a beautifully tuned RWS48, an incredibly accurate R1, an AA Pro-Elite.

They could not hold up at 100, the 177 was king.



Below is the HW 77 group, Not sure why I taped the target on backwards, Possibly I liked the little peel back’s.



A couple years later, I decided to see what I could do with a couple other rifles at 100 and 130 yds.



Top rifle is a Theoben Imperator FT 12 ft pnd, bottom is aJW60 Mark I. Both .177. The top two targets are with the JW 60 at 130 yards, five shots each. Just hitting the paper is a challenge. The bottom two targets are with the Theoben at 130 yards and 100 yards, 130 yard group is only three shots, they were less than a half an inch apart. I’m sure the fourth shot went right into the O-Zone 



And last a 165 yard group with the JW80...3 shots and a great deal of luck.



The Tyrannosaurus Rex of springers.



Thanks for the great post! I love springers!

Mike

Where's the photo of the FWB 300S?? That's the one that made the first cut. I've always said that they are the best springer of all, and you also proved what I've always said that the .177 will outshoot a .22.

Thanks. 

I sold it years ago. 

Mike

Mike, wow and impressive come to mind very quickly. Beautiful air rifles. Thanks for your post.

Gary