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    amoxom
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    hold under needed at 7 yards ⚰🐿💥🔫

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    JohnL57
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    Interesting-I usually have to hold OVER for shots closer than my first zero.
    John

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    gamyrick
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    John, you’re correct. The scope sits above the barrel which requires a holdover at close and far distances, unless you’re shooting at a steep angle. The video, however, clearly shows that a holdunder is being used. How is this possible? Especially as close as seven yards.

     

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    plinker
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    It might help to explain the terminology of holdover and under with pictures. I sometimes mis-state them. 
        Nice video using the mutant amoxom. Those are needed for proof of good service. The gun sounds fairly quiet. Is it stock or altered, standard or short? 

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    wyshadow
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    At 7 yards, the pellet hasn’t cross the line of sight for the scope which makes the pellet below the crosshairs. 

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    amoxom
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    I think wyshadow is right. I am sighted in for approximately 15 yards in my garage range. (Sad distance I know, but is what it is) I am also shooting through an opened window and down at an approximate 30 degree angle according to strelok pro. Magnification on the Hawke 4.5-15 scope was down at the minimum of 4.5. Side focus was at the closest. Shooting at low or high angles requires aiming lower.

    Plinker, this is a stock mutant standard. It is VERY quiet

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    plinker
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    “wyshadow”At 7 yards, the pellet hasn’t cross the line of sight for the scope which makes the pellet below the crosshairs. 

    
Which means you would use the Mildot under the crosshairs or the crosshairs are over the place you intend to hit. That is called holdover? Right? Or am I backwards. I don’t mean to confuse any one so I want to make sure my terminology fits the picture. 

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    wyshadow
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    Holdover means you hold your crosshairs over your target

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    wyshadow
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    Depending on your scope height and your pellet’s velocity and BC, and with a 15 yard zero, you could have a second zero

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    wyshadow
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    wyshadowHoldover means you hold your crosshairs over your target

    Or under? Man I’m confused now

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    gamyrick
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    15 yards is very close, but the answer to my question is the 30 degree angle. The steep angle is the reason the holdunder works. Thanks
     

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    plinker
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    View post on imgur.com


    so in this picture, assuming a headshot, it would be termed holdunder? Hope that’s correct. The intended placement being the Mildot over horizontal.  But if I was sighted in at 50 yards and this was 15yards I would likely use the Mildot under the horizontal for a head shot which would be termed holdover. Please tell me I got that right😳

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    gamyrick
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    Yes, you are correct. The crosshair is under the intended POI (point of impact) -Holdunder. If the crosshair is over the intended POI it is -Holdover.

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    plinker
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    “gamyrick”Yes, you are correct.

    
Bless you. 😜 Check your accuracy points : )

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    plinker
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    “amoxom”Shooting at low or high angles requires aiming lower.

    Plinker, this is a stock mutant standard. It is VERY quiet

    
Thanks amoxom. 

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