Questions for AF Texan owners.

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    NeilClague
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    At the moment I only make a full length shroud for the Texans in 1.75 inch diameter, would there be any interest in a 2 inch diameter LDC instead of the full shroud? I might be able to cut the length down slightly because of the larger diameter, but do not want to make a full shroud in that diameter, it would be a Monster!  Thanks, Neil.

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    ClearedHot
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    I love the shroud you made for my Texan but I think a shorter, wider end piece would be great. That said, I don’t know that I would invest in “another” just save “a little” on length. But, had the option been offered at the time of my original purchase, I might well have gone with the shorter. What about a 3″ LDC? Would that make an even greater difference in length? In general with that gun, the shorter the better would be very desirable. 

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    ClearedHot
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    On second thought, what about the possibility of a telescopic shroud like that you already fabricate for other weaponry? Might be the best of both worlds maintaining a thinner, and when needed, shorter implement.  

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    NeilClague
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    Cleared when I first made the shroud it was made as a shroud to try and keep the overall length of the gun down as much as possible, the space inside the shroud is huge and also uses the space inside the frame of the gun. I had thought about an LDC but to get a similar internal volume it would have to have a massive can and that is not something I think would look good on the gun. When I make these I also have to think about looks as well as functionality. A 2 inch can might look OK and depending on how far back I go over the barrel it might still work very well, but I think a 3 inch can on the end of the gun would make it very front heavy, since the gun is not very heavy itself this would be very undesirable for anyone hunting with it. I might be making a prototype LDC and sending it to Bob Vogel for testing, if he says it works as well as the shroud, or close to it then I might start to offer an LDC. The problem is cost versus effectiveness, a 2 inch LDC would cost the same as the 1.75 inch full shroud, so unless it is pretty much equivalent in performance it might not be something I would want to offer. I have to try and make sure the customer gets value for his money, Neil.

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    NeilClague
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    I know I could make the gun quieter than I have with the 1.75 inch shroud but the problem is the cost. I already think the cost of the full shroud is high enough and to make what I have in my thoughts would make it even more expensive, something I don’t think would be received well by customers, Neil.

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    Prouzy
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    What would/could be the length reduction? That might be appealing to folks too. How will it secure to the barrel? I can barely fit the Texan into the cabinet and the hanging light from the ceiling had to be moved 🙂 

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    NeilClague
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    You are not going to get the gun quiet with anything less than 8 inches in front of the muzzle, the gun just puts out way too much power to be able to make it quiet with something short. Buyers of the Texans should be fully aware of how loud the gun is and what it will take to make it quiet before they buy the gun. If being quiet is important to them then I suggest they buy something with less power. If they want the power and do not mind the size then go ahead and buy one, but they should be aware of what it takes to make them quiet before they commit to buying one, Neil.

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    Prouzy
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    I can only hope that someone who buys a .457 has some expectation of noise.  I personally have not needed something to be completely quiet, nor expected it, but just to tame enough to not make it a nuisance, but certainly understand what you are saying.  I personally like the way the LDC looks, maybe better over a full shroud.

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    NeilClague
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    I am considering making an LDC/moderator for them that is attached with set screws to the barrel and can be slid back to shorten the length in front of the muzzle to maybe 5 or 6 inches and then slid forwards for maximum effect when needed. It is all a matter of time, while I am so backed up with orders I just do not have the time to play with prototypes. Hopefully I will get caught up soon and then have time to do some tests. January is always a crazy month, December is slow and then after Xmas I just can not keep up with orders. Hopefully soon! Neil.

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    Prouzy
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    I like that idea.  I personally like that look as well.  I wonder too, if by having an LDC can influence accuracy more so than a shroud, and given the ability to change the ampunt of extension, barrel harmonics? No idea, just thinking out loud. At least in smaller calibers Ive seen changes in accuracy with LDC, muzzle breaks, etc.  

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    Turboken77
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    it realy helps to drill the bushings on the barrel to quiet the .25 condor I have it was way loud before I put a shroud on it  and added a drilled a bushing is now mouse fart quiet

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    NeilClague
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    Thanks Turboken but I have been doing that since the first one I made for them, Neil.

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