Questions about MTC Mamba Lite 4-16x42

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ElmerFuj

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Does anyone have any experience with this scope? I’m thinking about getting one for my Huntsman Classic in 22. I have an Optisan Viper 10x44 on a S200 177 and I think it’s great. Can anyone compare the glass to the Viper, Weaver V16, or Bushnell Legend so I can get an idea about clarity?

I’ve also read some people had issues with the Mamba getting foggy at higher magnifications, but I’ll be getting it through Trenier Outdoors, so I shouldnt have any problems with returning defective products. Any input would be helpful. Thanks. 
 
Just wanted to clarify my request. The intended use for this scope is primarily for hunting, with some occasional target practice and plinking. 

I’m interested in learning about the optical quality of the new MTC Mamba Lite 4-16x42. Can anyone compare it to other scopes (especially the older Optisan Viper 10x44, Weaver V16, or Bushnell Legend series scopes)? Are there any issues besides the possible blurring at higher magnifications that can be present with some defective scopes? 

Since I plan on zeroing the scope and leaving it alone, repeatability and tracking arent very important (although holding a zero is imperative). How do owners feel about the illumination, and its controls? I like the Optisan Viper’s illumination (no “blooming” and good range in brightness), however I think the Mamba Lite’s simpler illumination and controls are better fit for hunting.

Hoping to get some feedback. 
 
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I'm running the Mamba Lite on my Regal XL. The glass seem OK but I can't compare it to Weaver or Optisan. Never owned those. The glass in my Vortex Diamondback Tactical seems brighter but in fairness, it has a 50mm objective. 

The illumination is nice but only the center cross hair is affected which I like. It's very subtle on the lowest setting which is what I use when shooting at first light.

My biggest gripe is the 'eyebox'. Seems hard to hold that sweet spot and wants to wash out easily. Partly, that could be my old eyes and the 2.6mm exit pupil on 16x, plus I wear glasses. Using it for hunting on lower power might be more forgiving.

To be honest, I plan to switch mine out, put the Vortex on the Regal and the new Athlon Midas Tac on the Wildcat. I mostly punch paper shooting off a bag or bipod and a bright, comfortable sight picture is more of a priority that light weight and illumination.

Hope this helps.


 
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Thanks for the input Chohan but now you’ve made my decision tougher considering my other option was the Vortex Diamondback Tactical 4-16x40 FFP haha. I was leaning towards the MTC because I imagined the FFP reticle might be harder to make out on lower magnifications on cluttered backgrounds (ie trees and bushes). I figured the illuminated reticle could also be easier to spot against dark backgrounds as well. 

I’ve noticed my Optisan also washes out if I’m not properly aligned, but don’t mind as much since my S200 is used primarily for target practice and it helps keep my alignment consistent. However, I imagine this might be problematic in hunting scenarios with the MTC. 

Is your eyebox on the Diamondback more forgiving at 19x magnification (where the exit pupil should also be ~2.6mm)? 


 
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Yes, I think the Diamondback is a bit more forgiving, I usually keep it at 20x when shooting off the bag with little problem. It seems the longer I spend shooting, the more prone I am to to start having wash out, blurring and focus problems. Leads me to believe it's due to eye fatigue rather than a problem with the scopes.

Depending on what magnification you use hunting, the Mamba would probably be fine. I definitely love the reticle, it tends to draw your eye in and bracket the point of aim. Popped quite a few squirrels off my old bird feeder with it, headshots at 50 yards are almost too easy.

My problem now is, the HD glass in the Athlon Midas tac has me spoiled. Spending as much time gawking at scenery through the scope as shooting... like whoa, this is awesome. I suppose that's one of the better problems to have though.

Either the Mamba or Diamondback would likely make a lethal hunting combo paired with the Huntsman, but the illumination and awesome reticle on the Mamba get extra points imo. Of course, reticles usually boil down to individual taste. Guess you just consider the Mamba pros vs ffp and choose what will suit your needs the best. Cheers
 
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Thanks for the help Chohan. I’ve decided to get the MTC, believing the SFP, lightweight, illumination, and capped turrets are better suited for my purposes. I’m going to hold off on the Vortex Diamondback FFP for now, but I plan on using it for one of my 22LR rigs. Can’t wait to try out the MTC, which I just bought from Trenier Outdoors. I’ve dealt with them in the past, and they’re always more than happy to answer any questions. 
 
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No problem mate, I feel you made a good choice. 

Strange followup to all this: I switched out the Mamba for the Diamondback and shot a few sessions with my Regal XL while off this past weekend. I've already decided to put the Mamba back on it. I just prefer that mtc-scb reticle and feel my groups were a bit subpar since I grew so accustomed to it on the rifle. Plus squirrel season opens here next month, so the lighter weight is an added bonus.

cheers
 
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Jeff is a top notch guy if its broken he will replace it
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My main hold up to buying any of the MTC products is the warranty, It's nice he'll stand behind there product. It would be nice to if they put it in wrighting. I've seen where other brand's that stood behind there product where the damage was questionable or many years after the optic are out of production. MTC has great products, I dont understand there warranty's
 
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Mrshosted- 

I haven’t looked up MTC’s warranty, but I do believe Britain has strange laws regarding the subject. If I remember correctly, British law dictates that warranties can only be covered for a maximum number of years; so full lifetime warranties are not available. Not sure of the reasoning behind this though. 



I hope airguns become more popular in the US so we can get a wider range of optics that have a minimum parallax of 10-20 yards. I’m glad to see Vortex and Nightforce are now offering scopes with parallax in these ranges. I even believe that Vortex page has their new Diamondback FFP pictured on an air rifle on their homepage. 

Can’t wait for the day when I can get a Leupold VXi 4.5-14 with a side focus that goes down to 10 yards on my air rifles and 22LRs.
 
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