Question for .177 shooters

Finally had a calm day to test a few pellets, and the rifle is fine. Regarding the tune, it came shooting the 10 g around 860 fps, and I increased it to around 875, and it's very consistent. I think the longer barreled rifle is known for being set up hot. Mine is the carbine.

All the pellets I tried were 10 g, made by JSB, a couple under private label for others. The rifle shot both the AA and Rangemaster versions very well. One lot of the JSB label shot almost as well, another did not. 
 
If "finicky" means you have tried 8 different pellets, domed that should / could shoot well, and none or just one does then maybe take a close look at the crown of those barrel.


No, it actually shoots most pellets well, but with a slightly more obvious preference for a couple, compared to my .22 rifles. But I think a couple of things may be in play here. My .22s are all well seasoned, and just luckily very accommodating barrels. My .177 Weihrauch is new, and I haven't had a really good calm day to do much testing. Not displeased with it at all.

Which model 177 Weihrauch are you shooting? If springer what is your scope/mount setup? They all have some generalized patterns of liking certain pellets.

It is the HW 100K, PCP carbine.

First thing did you knock the stock power level down to right around 18ftlbs? The HW100's all come setup shooting WAY WAY too fast for even the heaviest 177 pellets. Once you are under 900fps with heavy pellets you should notice a huge difference in accuracy on all pellets. Most people seem to find a sweet spot between 850fps and 890fps with some heavy 177. Your problem could be your tuned power level and not the pellets.

Once tuned down to that try the JSB 10.34, Crossman Premier 10.5 in milk carton or most anything around 10.5gr. If you like the lighter stuff for shorter range the JSB 8.44's are about the best but you can't blast them over 900fps either for more than 25yds. Once you get something like that dialed in good them play around with super heavy or the pellets with the goofy heads marketed to kill a rabbit deader than a Diablo.

Another overgeneralized point of view, IMO. "All" and "WAY WAY TOO FAST" is an opinion that may well be accurate for the OP, may be accurate for some others, and may be completely off base for still others. In my case, it is absolutely not true. MY HW100 was in no way "too hot" as it was set up. It shot extremely well at around 930 with the lighter pellets (7.33/7.97/8.44) as originally shot. When I "followed the common wisdom" and lowered velocity well below 900, I saw less accuracy. Not more. It took me very little time to return to the "factory" range and then move higher. It now shoots 8.44's at around 970 and does so beautifully.
 
If "finicky" means you have tried 8 different pellets, domed that should / could shoot well, and none or just one does then maybe take a close look at the crown of those barrel.


No, it actually shoots most pellets well, but with a slightly more obvious preference for a couple, compared to my .22 rifles. But I think a couple of things may be in play here. My .22s are all well seasoned, and just luckily very accommodating barrels. My .177 Weihrauch is new, and I haven't had a really good calm day to do much testing. Not displeased with it at all.

Which model 177 Weihrauch are you shooting? If springer what is your scope/mount setup? They all have some generalized patterns of liking certain pellets.

It is the HW 100K, PCP carbine.

First thing did you knock the stock power level down to right around 18ftlbs? The HW100's all come setup shooting WAY WAY too fast for even the heaviest 177 pellets. Once you are under 900fps with heavy pellets you should notice a huge difference in accuracy on all pellets. Most people seem to find a sweet spot between 850fps and 890fps with some heavy 177. Your problem could be your tuned power level and not the pellets.

Once tuned down to that try the JSB 10.34, Crossman Premier 10.5 in milk carton or most anything around 10.5gr. If you like the lighter stuff for shorter range the JSB 8.44's are about the best but you can't blast them over 900fps either for more than 25yds. Once you get something like that dialed in good them play around with super heavy or the pellets with the goofy heads marketed to kill a rabbit deader than a Diablo.


Hmmm... never seen " Crossman Premier 10.5 in milk carton". CPUMs do come in a cardboard box of 1250, but I have found the 500 tins to be better with less defects. Well, at least for the 20,000 I bought a couple of years ago. The boxes marked "M" die are crap.
 
Bandg....I’m not saying there is not a small percentage that finds best accuracy at 550fps with 13gr or 930 with 7.33 pellets. When someone has accuracy issues like the poster I tend to steer them towards the other very high percentage of success or what you call "common wisdom". I don't advise them to chase around small percentage success until the more predominant success fails. Otherwise it complicates an already frustrating situation for the person.

Realistically if you are getting specific we have to define testing parameters. What type of rest, wind speed, group size, indoor/outdoor, optics/reticles and most of all distances. At that point we can somewhat compare apples to apples. For all we know your "beautifully" is at 10 meters indoors shooting 2 inch groups off a Farley rest with a March scope. It could also be shooting 1” groups at 100yds in high winds with a sandbag and Bugbuster scope. You are way to generalized.

You should watch the video by Ted’s Holdover on YouTube testing the HW100 FAC 177 at factory settings with lighter pellets at longer distances. Much past 50 yards they were spiraling all over the place. He slowed the pellet speed down and the spiraling stopped completely even at 100 yards and accuracy improved greatly. That is aerodynamics not opinions.
 
"small percentage" "realistically" "for all we know" "much past 50 yards"

"You are way to generalized"

Seems I said that about you. Suddenly all sorts of "qualifiers" to your "all" and "way way too fast". Your overgeneralized statement only takes 1 instance to contradict it. But there are many more that have been stated. Shoot the way you like. But assuming your BELIEFS apply to everyone else (seems to be the thrust of "all") seems to perfectly fit the definition of overgeneralized, thus not necessarily true for anyone but you. But, "all" can certainly make up their own minds.
 
"small percentage" "realistically" "for all we know" "much past 50 yards"

"You are way to generalized"

Seems I said that about you. Suddenly all sorts of "qualifiers" to your "all" and "way way too fast". Your overgeneralized statement only takes 1 instance to contradict it. But there are many more that have been stated. Shoot the way you like. But assuming your BELIEFS apply to everyone else (seems to be the thrust of "all") seems to perfectly fit the definition of overgeneralized, thus not necessarily true for anyone but you. But, "all" can certainly make up their own minds.

The poster wound up happy right were I thought would be good advice. You can have fun with your micromanaging symantics 101 review of my postings. 
 
Backstop... the term milk cartons comes from way back when Premiers 10.5 Die #2 ruled the roost for Field Target way back when. People called them the milk carton and the ones in tins were the lower quality. Things have changed.


Thanks. Back in my youth (6 or 7), my father bought for my older brother and me (it was really something my older brother wanted...) a pair of Crosman V350 "push barrel" .177 BB guns.

https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2009/08/crosman-v350-a-different-bb-gun/

https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2009/02/crosman-v350m-a-rare-and-special-bb-gun/

Interesting gun that I took many birds with back then... those were the days. And these days are the "those were the days" of the future.

Didn't get back with AGs much until about 4 years ago. Pretty much totally for pesting purposes around my home. But I absolutely do follow the new innovations and models.
 
"small percentage" "realistically" "for all we know" "much past 50 yards"

"You are way to generalized"

Seems I said that about you. Suddenly all sorts of "qualifiers" to your "all" and "way way too fast". Your overgeneralized statement only takes 1 instance to contradict it. But there are many more that have been stated. Shoot the way you like. But assuming your BELIEFS apply to everyone else (seems to be the thrust of "all") seems to perfectly fit the definition of overgeneralized, thus not necessarily true for anyone but you. But, "all" can certainly make up their own minds.

The poster wound up happy right were I thought would be good advice. You can have fun with your micromanaging symantics 101 review of my postings.

Thanks. Glad to do it for you.