Put the Vulcan G 4 On A Diet

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Lost over 12 oz in removed wood & forearm rail. Lost another 6oz + - with the 18 oz one inch tube optic vs 30mm. Don't know how it is going to shoot, but definitely feels better carrying and is not front end heavy anymore or not as much. Still not as friendly carry as the old Colibri Hummingbird, which was the most comfortable hunting PCP BP I ever hiked with. I am getting old, every pound counts,LOL

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Why? I mean I get the whole dropping some weight but the amount lost is not worth it. I have had the stock off of my Vulcan a good number of times and the thing hardly weighs that much. Im sorry but it looks... well... bad. Im not trying to be an A-hole or anything but so far I have yet to see a nice modification done to a stock. Most just chop or sand, or both the wood or laminate away. Dont mind me though. Its just my 2 cents.
 
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Why? I mean I get the whole dropping some weight but the amount lost is not worth it. I have had the stock off of my Vulcan a good number of times and the thing hardly weighs that much. Im sorry but it looks... well... bad. Im not trying to be an A-hole or anything but so far I have yet to see a nice modification done to a stock. Most just chop or sand, or both the wood or laminate away. Dont mind me though. Its just my 2 cents.
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No Problem, does not bother me. It is definitely not something I would encourage someone else to do. 😁 I have plenty of beautiful rifles and would not alter the stock on most of them, but this stock has never been what I would call beautiful & It is going to suit me more now. I am actually amazed how much lighter it seems. I used to hunt big game & we would hike for days & miles and we would celebrate reducing something by a few ozs. Even at my age I still hike & hunt serval miles a day in very steep terrain. I just shot It and the accuracy had not been affected. & it is more comfortable for me off hand, which is how I mostly hunt. To me the Vulcan with a full length scope is front heavy, not conducive for offhand hunting. 

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Nutcracker, I really feel ya. I have become super critical of balance and weight as I got old and arthritis creeped into my shoulder joints. My Cricket mini was too much and the weight forward from the scope exacerbated the balance and feel. These young guys just aren't there yet and cannot relate, they are lucky. So weight and balance go hand in hand and at 77 I'll drill holes and saw away. Short 1" compact scopes of around 18 oz are in store next. 

I think FX's Continuum with the 380mm barrel may approach that nice weight balance ideal but gotta touch one first.
 
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Nutcracker, I really feel ya. I have become super critical of balance and weight as I got old and arthritis creeped into my shoulder joints. My Cricket mini was too much and the weight forward from the scope exacerbated the balance and feel. These young guys just aren't there yet and cannot relate, they are lucky. So weight and balance go hand in hand and at 77 I'll drill holes and saw away. Short 1" compact scopes of around 18 oz are in store next. 

I think FX's Continuum with the 380mm barrel may approach that nice weight balance ideal but gotta touch one first.
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Yeah, I hear you, that is how I am getting. I just moved my scope back just before the bell contacts the scope rail & moved the sling attachment near the rear end. Even this minute change added a lil more balance, well it seemed to, LOL. Weakness in my left arm from lack of lifting anything heavy anymore magnifies the issue. This scope has forgiving eye relief so I have some flexibility. 
 
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Nutcracker, I really feel ya. I have become super critical of balance and weight as I got old and arthritis creeped into my shoulder joints. My Cricket mini was too much and the weight forward from the scope exacerbated the balance and feel. These young guys just aren't there yet and cannot relate, they are lucky. So weight and balance go hand in hand and at 77 I'll drill holes and saw away. Short 1" compact scopes of around 18 oz are in store next. 

I think FX's Continuum with the 380mm barrel may approach that nice weight balance ideal but gotta touch one first.
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I am glad you old guys posted this. I have been thinking about finding a cricket mini. I like shooting offhand. I thought the short mini may work out for me. But I better feel one before ordering one. thanks.

I bought a new 1720T the other day without ever holding one. When it arrived I took it out of the box and realized it can't work for me I have bad wrist joints. It weight just enough more than my 1701 that I didn't even try putting a scope on it. I knew it might put me out of commission. 



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Why? I mean I get the whole dropping some weight but the amount lost is not worth it. I have had the stock off of my Vulcan a good number of times and the thing hardly weighs that much. Im sorry but it looks... well... bad. Im not trying to be an A-hole or anything but so far I have yet to see a nice modification done to a stock. Most just chop or sand, or both the wood or laminate away. Dont mind me though. Its just my 2 cents.
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No Problem, does not bother me. It is definitely not something I would encourage someone else to do. 😁 I have plenty of beautiful rifles and would not alter the stock on most of them, but this stock has never been what I would call beautiful & It is going to suit me more now. I am actually amazed how much lighter it seems. I used to hunt big game & we would hike for days & miles and we would celebrate reducing something by a few ozs. Even at my age I still hike & hunt serval miles a day in very steep terrain. I just shot It and the accuracy had not been affected. & it is more comfortable for me off hand, which is how I mostly hunt. To me the Vulcan with a full length scope is front heavy, not conducive for offhand hunting. 

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In the end if it works for you then thats all that matters. Im happy that you did not get your nickers in a bunch over my comment. Just being honest. You know I wish there were ways for us to purchase some of these airguns after we have had got a chance to handle them, put them up to our shoulders and whatnot. I know some of us have a location near by. AoA is just a few miles down the road from where I am. But its not like they carry what I want. Out of my collection the only airgun I have purchased from them was my compatto.
 
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If you want to alter the gun, for whatever reason and have the balls to do it, the more power to you! 

A while back I posted some pictures of my Impact MKII that I had altered extensively. I sanded, buffed and polished all of the gun to a bright shiny silver finish! The first reply to the post was some guy who unloaded on me, telling me I had ruined the gun, it's value was gone and he hated it. He continued to tell me it was ugly and I was dumb for doing it. I loved the way it looked and would like to say it didn't hurt a little, but it did. However, about the next one hundred replies were people telling me how much they liked what I did and how cool it was. I'm not saying it to make you feel better, I just think it looks really cool and would rather have a custom gun than a cookie cutter that everyone else has too. I customize all of my guns to some degree. It sets them apart a bit and makes them unique. If the lighter weight makes it easier for you to carry, the more power to you. I just happen to think it looks cool, especially what you did to the stock behind the pistol grip, neat looking!. I've often wondered if all that extra wood behind the pistol grip really strengthens the stock that much. It sure looks better with that wood back there gone, you did a great job!!! 

How do you like that Meopta? I used to have a pair of Meopta Binoculars that were great. I've read that their new scopes are spectacular but have yet to look through or try one out. Some of their new scopes look like they would be perfect for air gunners and the glass is supposed to be super.. 

Stoti


 
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If you want to alter the gun, for whatever reason and have the balls to do it, the more power to you! 

A while back I posted some pictures of my Impact MKII that I had altered extensively. I sanded, buffed and polished all of the gun to a bright shiny silver finish! The first reply to the post was some guy who unloaded on me, telling me I had ruined the gun, it's value was gone and he hated it. He continued to tell me it was ugly and I was dumb for doing it. I loved the way it looked and would like to say it didn't hurt a little, but it did. However, about the next one hundred replies were people telling me how much they liked what I did and how cool it was. I'm not saying it to make you feel better, I just think it looks really cool and would rather have a custom gun than a cookie cutter that everyone else has too. I customize all of my guns to some degree. It sets them apart a bit and makes them unique. If the lighter weight makes it easier for you to carry, the more power to you. I just happen to think it looks cool, especially what you did to the stock behind the pistol grip, neat looking!. I've often wondered if all that extra wood behind the pistol grip really strengthens the stock that much. It sure looks better with that wood back there gone, you did a great job!!! 

How do you like that Meopta? I used to have a pair of Meopta Binoculars that were great. I've read that their new scopes are spectacular but have yet to look through or try one out. Some of their new scopes look like they would be perfect for air gunners and the glass is supposed to be super.. 

Stoti

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Stoti,

Removing the web structure on the buttstock only reduced weight by 2 oz. Naturally it weakened it some, but it is not fragile now. Since there are two screws securing this stock to the rifle, I believed I could remove any wood in front of the front screw & any wood behind the back screw and not really hurt the rifle much. 

I like the Meopta MeoPro 4.5-14x44. For a one inch tube it is about as good optically as you can get ( IMO). You know that Meopta actually made this scope for Zeiss and it was called Conquest. Not sure Zeiss still has these. I just bought this Meopta for 460.00 from Cameraland, they had them on sale , probably still have few. I think they usually go for around 800.00. 
 
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It’s your gun, you do as you wish & You’re a good man in all things. That’s why the negative opinion hurt. I can’t let people’s views influence me or I’d be messed up. My own Johari Window needs a good cleaning with some Windex.

I truly don’t think it looks bad before or after. New Vulcan Gen 2’s have sidelever on left. Yay.

I’m not much of a walk & hunt guy with any airgun or bow so as a longer range Varmint/target shooter I ideally pick a high clear spot or trail. It’s then sit in stand or lay prone on edge of field tethered, or at a Bench Rest. Weight helps in accuracy when you start throwing slugs. So there’s a big difference in what gun for what.

If I’m on a nature walk looking for HOSPS or Starlings yeah a lightweight standard or short lefty bull pup might be nice. But 95% of the time I’m benched with bags or shooting off knees butt on the ground & I want certain high power guns with long heavy bull barrels, heavy steel rear tank and heavy laminate 3” wide forestock proportioned to somewhat balance it IF ever shot off hand but generally just weight is good.

I recall AZ asking me if I ever shot a big bore. I said my 3 DAQ pistols, Sumatra .25. This was before slugs or anything mainstream bigger than .25 Allan explained the slow “dwell” time of a pellet like 81 grain JSB from a RAW .357 and that people complain because they can’t get groups like the .177 & .22’s shoot. Well I’m seeing what he meant with 36 grain slugs from 24” LW Choked barrel, high flow valve, .197” port chamfered & a 115 grain brass hammer. It lifts. It’s not built for driving tack groups. 

So you do what you want with your guns Stoti. Ruined the value. Lol. If I had a YouTube channel with thousands of viewers, if I were a people person I bet I’ve had some ugly “ruined” guns that would impress their accuracy over looks on some folks once viewers see it in action. A picture doesn’t always say the right 1000 words.
 
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